How to: blog on your new profile

Based on the feedback we received from users like you we recently introduced a new blogging module into your profile on Yahoo!.

By now, some of you may have taken the time to explore this new feature, but if you haven’t here’s a quick walk-through of the new blogging tool’s features.

Getting started

Once you’ve set up your profile on Yahoo! you’ll notice a “My Blog” module in the right column.



Composing an Entry and Permissions

Clicking on the “Compose Entry” button will take you straight to the blogging module, where you’ll be able to compose your first entry.



From here, you can edit the title of your blog (each title defaults to the current date, just like a diary), and begin your latest entry.  (1)

When composing an entry, you have the option of adding links, images, and video.  I’ll outline each of these features later on in this post. (2)

Once you’re through writing, click “Post Entry” to post your blog to your profile. (3)

After you’ve composed an entry or two, these will show up in the right column under the “Most Recent Entries” title. (4)

To easily change your blog’s permissions, click on the hyperlink in the right column (5)

This will take you to the Permissions page, where you’ll be able to select whether or not you want your blog entries to be viewable by “Anyone,” “My Connections,” or, “Me Only.”



It is important to note that if you set your blog to be viewable by “Anyone” this also permits “Anyone” to comment on your blog.

Blogging Tools

When composing an entry you have several tools at your disposal that allow you to easily inject more personality into your posts.  Below you’ll find a quick walk-through of the tools found within the blog editor.



B: This is the universal symbol for “Bold.” Use this to bold your text. Either select it prior to typing (and all subsequent text will be bolded until you deselect this option), or, highlight the text you’d like bolded and then click on the “B” icon to bold it.

I: Just like the Bold icon, this is the universal symbol for “Italic.” Use this to italicize your text. Either select it prior to typing (and all subsequent text will be italicized until you deselect this option), or, highlight the text you’d like italicized and then click on the “I” icon to bold it.

U: Just like the Bold and Italic icons, this is the universal symbol for “Underline.” Use this to underline your text. Either select it prior to typing (and all subsequent text will be underlined until you deselect this option), or, highlight the text you’d like underlined and then click on the “U” icon to bold it.

T (Font Color): This is the text color grid. To activate it, you must first select a batch of text to “colorize”. When you do this, you’ll be presented with a drop-down menu that allows you to select from an assortment of colors.

13 (Spin Button): Just like the color grid, to activate the size tool you must first select a batch of text to enlarge. All blog entries default to size 13 font. To increase the font size, use the “up” arrows. To decrease, use the “down” arrows next to the number. You can also use “Control + Shift + Up Arrow” and “Control + Shift + Down Arrow” to toggle between font sizes.

Create an Unordered List: Have a list of facts or details that you want to share? Use this feature to create a bulleted list. To use this feature, you can select the feature first, and then begin typing your list, hitting “return” (or, “enter”) to move on to the next bullet point. Or, if you already have a series of items entered and just want to bullet them, just highlight the list (each entry should be separated by a “return” or “enter”) and then click the “Unordered List” button to format your entries. Using this feature automatically activates the text color wheel and the size buttons.

Create an Ordered List: This feature works the same way as the “Unordered List” option, but instead of displaying a series of bullet points, this option will create an ordered list. (See above for formatting tips). This feature also automatically activates the text color wheel and the size buttons.

Add a Link: Want to share a link? Use this feature to insert a hyperlink into your Article. To hyperlink a word, first type the word you want hyperlinked or, just select the word within the entry you want to hyperlink, and click on the Link icon. When you do this, you’ll see a pop-up menu that says “Link Options,” which will allow you to enter the link URL and a description, if you want. You’ll also have the option of selecting whether or not the link will be opened in a new window or in the same window. By selecting the “Open in a new window” box, you’ll enable your readers to stay on your blog page, and, explore the link you’ve presented them with.

If you’ve hyperlinked too much, use the “Remove link from text” link in the bottom corner of this pop out window to remove it.

Insert an Image: Spice up your entry by adding an image from anywhere on the web. Clicking on this icon will present you with a pop-out window that will allow you to configure your image options.
Your blog within your profile does not support uploading images straight from your computer. Instead, we allow you to find an image on the web and place that image’s URL in this box. This will insert your image straight into your blog entry.



To adjust the size of your image, either manually adjust the pixels in the size window, or, once you’ve clicked “Done” you can manually resize your image by grabbing a corner and dragging it.

Adjusting the “Text Flow” will allow you to reposition your image within your blog entry.

Adding a description is optional and does not display beneath the image. Instead, when a viewer hovers over the image they’ll see your description as a yellow pop-up.

The “Link URL” option allows you to hyperlink your image to another location on the web. This can be used to send readers back to the original location of the image (like your Flickr album), or, to a relevant site that relates back to your entry.  Selecting the “Open in a new window” box will open a new browser window and will allow users to stay on your blog entry and viewing the new webpage.

Add Media: Click on this icon to embed a video from your favorite video sites into your entry. All you need to do is grab the embed code and click “Done.”

Yahoo! Video Users:  Click on the envelope icon at the bottom of the video. The Embed code will appear above.

Flickr Video Users: Click on Share This at the top right of the screen, and then click on Embed it in the box that appears.

YouTube Users: The Embed code is to the right of the video, inside the information box.

Edit HTML Code: Clicking on this icon will switch you over to “HTML Mode.” Doing this “greys out” the WYSYWIG tools to display your blog entry in HTML format. This way, if you’re an old pro at HTML, or, just prefer to edit between carrots (< >) you’re able to.

Your profile page

Once you’ve hit “Post Entry,” your entry will show up on your profile page. When you’re on your profile you’ll notice that the blogging feature defaults over to the right column. If you prefer to give your entry a little more space, just grab the entire box and drag it over to the first column.

On your profile, you’re able to rearrange the “Guestbook,” “My Blog,” “About Me” and “Updates” modules. This allows you to rearrange your content in whatever way you deem fit. The only modules within your profile that are static are: “Connections,” “Invitations to Connect,” and your contact card (this is the top portion that contains your name and display image).

That’s it! If you have questions about the blogging tool, please feel free to leave them in the comments section below, and I’ll respond to as many as I can.

Melissa Daniels
Yahoo! Community Manager

  • Subscribe via RSS
  • 247 Comments

RSS feed | Trackback URI

247 comments »

Comment by Anna-Maria
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

Hi Melissa,

This blogging platform is a disgrace and an insult to the millions of your customers that have been using Y360.

You state that the new profiles are not meant to be a social networking platform or to replace Y360. Why then do we have ‘connections’?
If the profiles were not a social networking platform why are we inviting people to join us there?
Why are we expected to blog on it? Why would we want to blog if it were not a social networking platform?
Why on earth did you create the new profiles at all?

I realise that in its wisdom Yahoo has decided to go down this route against the wishes of the people that actually use the service but you do not seem to know what it is you wish to create and if I as a customer can make that comment what hope have you got?

Please Yahoo just for once listen to what your customers are saying and give the services that we want.

Comment by ER!C@
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 1:19 am

It’s meant to connect with your yahoo contacts. Plus, the yahoo profiles and 360 needed an upgrade.

Comment by blondie
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 11:28 am

An “upgrade”, yes. They didn’t upgrade 360, they killed it.

Frankly, fixing the bugs would’ve been upgrade enough. Or expanding what we couldn’t do with some of the new ideas from Profiles, if they liked. But just pulling the plug in the face of so much protest is arrogant. “We don’t care what you want or what you like, so stuff it…like it or lump it, move on or don’t…”

 
 
Comment by donnybud
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 10:47 am

I agree. I cancelled my MySpace and Facebook accounts because I’m not “into” social networking after trying it for awhile.
All I need is email and a Blog page (although I have a geocities-yahoo page, I haven’t used it for almost 2 years).
I just wnt to Blog and have a few friends red it… I don’t need to have friends-of-friends-of-friends in an endless list cluttering up a “profiles” space.
Yahoo said they would transfer my 360 Blog. I’ve asked twice and it hasn’t happened! WHAT’S UP WITH THAT YAHOO???

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 10:44 am

Donnybud,
Just a heads up, your geocities page is going to disappear soon as geocities is also shutting down. (http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html)

As for your blog transfer issues, please feel free to email me directly and I can explore your problem further. (yahooprofiles [at] yahoo-inc [dot] com.

-Melissa

Comment by Leonel
MyAvatars 0.2

June 26th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

Melissa, HOw can I delete my profile, someone has place a female picture, created and female id name and put stuff there that is no my, I try to change that but I am fraid that by putting the code or word I will be giving access to someone else, please advice.
Thank you. if possible would you be able to email me.. I do not how I got in here.. please help me I do not want to change my acct with yahoo.
thank you

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 29th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

Leonel,
Please check out this help link: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/profiles/cctop10/profile.html for more information on what to do. If you’re still concerned that someone has taken over your account, you’re welcome to contact the abuse team and report the issue: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/profiles/abuse.html

-Melissa

 
 
 
 
Comment by Nancy
MyAvatars 0.2

June 19th, 2009 at 10:29 am

I am in complete agreement Melissa. I was very happy with the way my blog was on Y360, but I find the new profile boring and confusing. Yahoo answers that the blog site needed to be upgraded…. why?

 
Comment by Worldpeaz
MyAvatars 0.2

June 22nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm

I totally agree. 360 was the best of all that has been out there to allow us to express ourselves with more than just words .. or not. We had communities of people with interests from around the world and when you went to their page you could tell something about them without even having to interact. In order to put a photo in you have to go get a URL for it? I can understand that within the blog, but the photo that went with the blog title was often like part of the title. This place is BARREN. We have no creative flow in here. Mulitply is our last known option, although MySpace is improving quite a bit. You can even edit your photographs in there. You can do NOTHING in here but talk back and forth and put up a listed blog. We’re not all verbal on here .. some of us are very visual as well.

I stuck up for Yahoo, as I have been here for years ~ I believed they were going to provide us with something really outstanding. I was constantly giving pep talks to people telling them to have patience. We only have a few weeks to go and then all is gone and it certainly appears nothing is being done to improve what has been offered here.

We grieve.

 
Comment by Ioan
MyAvatars 0.2

June 26th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

I find it hard to belive that the new yahoo profile is where they are moving us to. I liked it on y360, even though it had some problems and some things were missing. But on the new profile there are much more things missing than on 360! I find that incredible, that we have less functions, less posibilitys to express… everything seems… less.

Maybe i dont have my photos on the web to link them to the blog, i want to load them up from my computer.

I thought 4 photos where not enough to discribe me, even though this is not hi5 nor facebook, but one? One photo? That should make me be very carefull with the picture i choose…

And so on.

I do think it can be better, and thats the point in here. I dont want to have to move on another site, as i liked it on 360, but if I am to stay here, I have to have something more than just a notepad where you can add a link.

 
 
Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

I am satisfied with the blog. It still has some bumps for me with updates and editing, [I directed those to customer service] but it saves fine, it deletes fine and most importantly it loads fine and it gives back the embedding tools that are standard. I am also a moderator of a yahoo group and the reality is, people are all over the internet, my group members definitely are. So, while I do blog here and I will use it as my blog place, I find my connections updates feed takes me to places all over the web, allowing me to connect to my connections social networks outside of the yahoo network and within the yahoo network.

Most of us wanted a blog in profiles when you posted your query a while back as we knew 360 was going down and we put it at the top of the lists. I think you have an assortment of things at the top at the moment and the way things are going, people are settling in , in terms of my own connections. I realize mature will not be added, or at least, i don’t think it will, though I wish it was. But, you need to do some kind of theme. Maybe not for the profile frontpage, which i don’t think needs a theme, but for the profile blog page, the blog entries, and the update and guestbook blog page. Those three [or more ] pages are full of space that would be serviced well with a little individuality. But, to speak of the blog, it would be good to have a theme possible. Not an open palette, but something like 360 where colors can be chosen and an image or 2 placed.
It might make people feel a tad better. people don’t like facebooks’ psych ward look in particular

this is not concerning blogs but i thought why not,
I think you need to advance the share more. Their are so many places online that people go to that is not linked to profiles, and thus unshareable, and people are not too keen about using mybloglog, though they can.

 
Comment by Jack
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

I think the better solution would have been for Yahoo to license WordPress and integrate it with this new profile system. Why spend the time to develop a blogging feature that is half-baked, when start of the art open-source blogging platforms are available out there right now?

Yahoo has a lot of great assets, flickr, finance, etc. even buzz, but they all operate in silos. Tying them all together is Yahoo’s challenge and this new profile system does not appear to be the solution.

Comment by Gabriel
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

The blogging interface is almost certainly wordpress based – the interface is identical to a free worpress.com blog.

Comment by Jack
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 12:04 am

Nope. This blog (yprofileblog.com) runs on WordPress. What I am talking about is the blog feature on Y!Profiles — it uses the YUI Rich Text Editor. WordPress doesn’t use that…

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 9:05 am

Could yahoo have really licensed wordpress? business wise, do you think it is possible?
most firms still do a lot in house programming, perhaps yahoo plans things that with a wordpress association like that requires wordpress to know more than yahoo desires?

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Jack
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 12:46 am

Yes, it could. But in a fairly big corporation such as Yahoo,sometimes it’s not as simple as picking the technology and go with it. There’s a lot of little fiefdom and internal politics that will prevent that from happening.

Since WordPress is open source, Yahoo will be able to modify the source code to fit its needs. The license is really just for the support, but I’m sure Yahoo has enough technical talent to support it themselves. Just look at this blog — it’s already on WordPress.

 
Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 5:58 am

true , internal politics does dictate,
It is the apple model. I understand where your coming from. Like they built on linux, yahoo could build on wordpress.
I think they could have , they have their corporate blogs, and they don’t always work right. Whatever, reason, from being proprietary, to security, to money and effort, they chose not to use wordpress like that. In some ways, I would like to know why but they will never say the reason

do you think they could still make such a move, some sort of yahoo wordpress hybrid?

 
Comment by Jack
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 7:00 am

They certainly could, but from the way Melissa is responding to comments on this blog, the decision seems pretty firm to stick with Y!Profiles and this blogging add-on.

It’s too bad that WordPress isn’t for sale, otherwise, it will be a good acquisition target for Yahoo. All the big players have a blogging platform of their own – Google w/Blogger (bought), Microsoft with Windows Live Spaces (in-house) , and AOL Journals (now defunct, in-house — but also bought Blogsmith, used by their media properties,e.g. TMZ, Engadget, etc.).

 
Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 4:35 am

But, as she said, yahoo’s purpose is not a blog. Lets be honest, if they really wanted people to blog on their profile, then they would not have 6 blogs listed in their share more.
with, 10-12 blog services all together if you include mybloglog.

the blogging tool on profiles is only for those that want it.If you sue wordpress, link it to your mybloglog and link your mybloglog to your profile updates

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 9:54 am

Jack,
You’re right– the decision is firm. We’re sticking with profiles and shutting down Y!360 completely. As for working with WordPress, we do have a partnership with them if you’d like to pay for a hosted blog (Y! does the hosting, WP provides the software). We also have worked with them so that there’s a configurable homepage for 360 users– meaning, when you decide to migrate your content over to WordPress, they know you’re coming and a 360 user. :)

-Melissa

 
Comment by Jack
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

Melissa,

That may actually be something that Yahoo should recommend to users requiring a more powerful blogging tool than the Profile one. At least this is a path for users to consider and I bet many people do not even know about Yahoo Hosting/WP.

MK,
No, Yahoo is not just about blogging, but it is a large part. If you use Yahoo in other regions such as Hong Kong or Taiwan, Yahoo Blog is a huge thing (they are dedicated web properties in those regions). It’s just that in the US, the blogging facility never gained the same level of traction (primarily 360 wasn’t a slamdunk success, but it wasn’t a complete failure either).

The type of people who use Yahoo extensively would want it to be an end-to-end solution for their online needs, i.e. they are choosing one-size fits all vs. best of breed. Blogging is a very important part of this. Without a blogging property, Yahoo is leaving a big gap in their service line (at least in the US).

Speaking of MyBlogLog, it’s basically what Yahoo Profiles is, so why do it again? Perhaps renaming it to Yahoo Profiles would be faster?

 
Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 7:15 am

I meant yahoo profiles when i said yahoo Jack.
and your right, yahoo internationally has a greater robustness in certain areas.
well mybloglog and profiles seem to be the same idea but different directions. with mybloglog its focus is outside of yahoo, you dont have yahoo services updates with mybloglog, with profiles the focus is inside yahoo, you have a few external services updates. Together , they represent accessing content inside and outside the yahoo network. And, since profiles can link mybloglog and not the other way around, it makes profiles the superior product functionally. Also, I like the security of profiles better.

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 9:35 am

Jack,
If you’re looking for more details on the WordPress/Yahoo hosting deal, you can check out this link: http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/hostingfeatures.php (expand the “Advanced Design Options” tab to see the WordPress option).

-Melissa

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Joy
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

I attempted to try out the new blog and it kept freezing up on me so I wasn’t very happy about that and didn’t get much of a chance to explore it. Yahoo is extremely slow lately and not working well at all. It keeps asking for my password when I try to go to my 360 page and then after I put in my password it takes me to Yahoo home page. I just don’t understand why none of it can work half way decent. Another thing it’s taking forever and a day for the email to open. Any suggestions how we work around this stuff?

 
Comment by Crazy_mom
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

just thought I’d ask, did Yahoo fix the glitch where profiles are not updating age and name so group owners can see it?

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 9:40 am

Crazy_mom,
No– this is a groups issue– please see this help page for more information:

http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/issues/oldprofile.html;_ylt=At1MuqFHjmO9kDQiayjofvyLHHdG

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by tw
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

Why did you not make it available for us to share pictures we have on our computers? Some of us have family photos or just inspirational ones or just plain old silly ones. We have to find pictures on the web to upload and what if we wanted to save them to our computers to use again we couldn’t do that? You really need to consider allowing your users to change backgrounds and colors it expresses who they are. I agree it may make us feel a tad bit better. Thanks

Comment by Cassandra
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

You can use a photo hosting service such as Flickr, Photobucket, or Imageshack, for instance. It works, but it’s very clumsy.

 
 
Comment by Cassandra
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

EXTREMELY inconvenient to have to find and deal with an external photo hosting service for blog photos instead of directly uploading an image. What on earth was the reasoning behind this?

Other than that, I’m content.

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 9:08 am

They may add it in the future, but i think they felt that so many image hosting sites are around, why download a file directly into your blog when you can just embed. If it is your file, you probably use some image hosting service. Casandra, the quick solution for anyone is to make a new account at some image hosting service somewhere for the purpose of blogs. Then you can just link get the link. But, for now it is just a wait. i think they are probably doing as much as they can in the background

Comment by Cassandra
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am

I’m hoping you’re right, MK. I’m just mentally comparing uploading an image directly to a blogpost instead of uploading an image on one website, copying the URL, then coming to Yahoo Profiles Blog and pasting it in. Three steps instead of just one.

Or perhaps Yahoo decided to get itself out of the photo hosting business and leave the storage to others? THAT I can understand, and that’s my guess.

C.

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

well yahoo has flickr. and flickr is successful. I think they would rather people embed from flickr than upload but they are probably going to allow uploads. PEople did say from the beginning they wanted profiles to be like 360. Some things yahoo will not do, but if they have this blog they must at some point, come through with the advancements or tell folks they will not do it. It is their choice.
As users our choice is to use the blog here or not, but we can always keep our connections with folk on nearly all of the top social networks in the u.s.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by Mike G
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

You can upload 50 free pics to Flickr. It’s a great site…or if you want unlimited free…go to photobucket. Flickr even allows you to email pictures to your account. I keep all my pix on Flickr so no matter where I am I can always show friends and family. Plus…if my computer ever crashes…no worries.

Give it a shot!

 
Comment by jc
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

I don’t like it…. too generic. : (

 
Comment by Zippy
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

Didja fix that lil glitch where it inserts a hollow square for space bar hits yet? Might want to see to that little detail before blowing your horn.

Honestly, when you create a blogging feature you really should make sure it works better than a basic forum site, or even Windows freakin’ wordpad maybe. Else what are you really offering?

Just sayin’…

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

Hi Zippy,
I’ve followed up with you via email regarding this issue.

If anyone else is still seeing this issue (and isn’t first composing their entries in Word or a similar word processing program) please email me directly at yahooprofiles [at] yahoo-inc [dot] com

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by pilsener
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

Hi Melissa, I’m sure all members of Y!Profiles are now so curious about when all the functions / features on your team’s “to-do list” will be added to profiles.

Please let people know when, with specific deadline, they can:
- Change / edit background and themes.
- Manage friends by category.
- Post quick comments somewhere without seeing those appear on their own profiles.
- etc…

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 5:19 am

pilsener,
you will always see your own profile updates on your page. That does not mean others will see it.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

MK,
I think pilsener is referring to guestbook comments. There has been a bug opened for this issue.

As for transparency into our “to-do” list I’m seeing if we can do this/provide this. :)

-Melissa

Comment by pilsener
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

Yup, you are right Melissa. I mean the guestbook comments.

Hope to have the schedule of your to-do list soon ;)

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 6:03 am

alright. I know some people who are not able to embed anything or have images and vids go away in their guestbook. So, the bug has cousins.

that is good another to do list, though when you ask, maybe you should not just allow for a simple 10. ask for two to do’s. One for what you would like to see that isn’t on the profiles. And, one for what you would like tweaked that is on the profiles.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
Comment by Flutterbee
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

I agree…when will or will it ever be possible to do these things?

 
 
Comment by Martin Kariuki
MyAvatars 0.2

June 8th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

While you reworking or making yahoo better… My Profile was changed to some female’s profile named ‘Phoebe’ in the states… What EXACTLY IS GOIN ON WITH YOU GUYS? AND I DONT LIKE THIS NEW MAMBO JAMBO!!!

 
Comment by Tina
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 6:16 am

When I see my profile, I received this :

“Sorry, this profile cannot be retrieved at the moment. Please try again.
What can I do?

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

I’ve added you to the bug– if none of your content is marked as mature, there should be a fix out for this issue shortly. Sorry!

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by Night Star
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 6:27 am

I had my profile all set up – transfered all of my 400+ blogs from 360 to this new site and now I recieve the “Sorry, this profile cannot be retrieved at the moment. Please try again”

When will this be fixed and I better not lose all my blogs!!

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

You won’t lose your blog entries.

You should still be able to download them all, whether you can access your profile or not). We’re working on the bug fix for this issue.

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by Night Star
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 6:33 am

I mean I would LIKE to explore my new Yahoo Profile and check out how it differs from 360 – too bad I can’t seem to access it since my “profile cannot be retrieved at the moment” This is one week TWO now

 
Comment by Tiffers
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 10:25 am

woooo hoooo……yay…..so excited…yeah……<—–sarcasm. When will we be able to put up BackGround pics????? hy didn’t you just integrate these features to 360 ffs.

 
Comment by sunnierstudent
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am

And why can’t we insert images and videos from our computer?

 
Comment by freya
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am

I appreciate the blog feature. Yeah, it’s a bit barebones but I can deal with it. I stopped transferring from WORD and the little space boxes disappeared. I can get my own font in there if I copy and paste from one of my other blogs…since I post the same blog in different places, that’s actually pretty convenient.
Still not really happy with having to use Photobucket or whatever to post pics from. Just an FYI.
I found out Firefox displays my page better than IE. WAY better… IE has my font on EVERYTHING lol. KInda weird so I use my Firefox lol.
I’d love to be able to mess with the background. I am sure that’ll come in time but I miss it.
I still haven’t connected a lot. Seems like it’s a pain to find people. I’m not sure why, it just is. There doesn’t seem to be anywhere to develop a community. If this isn’t supposed to be ’social’ then what is the point? I don’t need just a profile, I need to connect to people to be on here. Most of Yahoo has gone away or is so stupid (SHINE…god do we really need another Oprah or IVillage rip-off?? Besides, I DON”T Like to cook, need to know the newest ‘women’s stuff or whatever…god kill me if I get up on that site again *rolls eyes*) MYbloglog is even worse. I can’t even see the point of that one.
I tried, I really did, but if this can’t be used as a social network then I am afraid that anything you do to it is still not going to keep me here. I’ll continue to connect over at Multiply and just close my email account, etc over here and say goodbye finally to Yahoo.

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

yeah, that is a good idea, blog backgrounds,

freya,
80% of the people I socialize with online blog on facebook, myspace, multipy, a ning, and etc. Most people I know don’t blog on profiles. But, we stay connected. I have to admit, I use yahoo pipes for some, but I have been getting my connections to use profiles update stream and some get it. Even if you don’t blog on your profile, if you share updates from wherever you blog on your profile with connections is gives folk a place to stay connected to what your doing. something you can’t do on facebook, or none of the others.
I have went to my friends manually. And, it helps me not have to go all over the internet on a myriad of different socnet’s.
it is a chore but it is worth it if you want to easily keep up with folks

Comment by freya
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Who are you and what the heck do I care about what you do? JEEZ
All my friends are on Multiply and we stay connected jut fine thanks. I wanted a blog over here but I can get so much more somewhere else. If Yahoo doesn’t keep up, I have no reason to be here.

 
 
 
Comment by Jed
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 11:32 am

I tried the new blog system. It certainly runs better than facebook, so I’m not entirely dissatisfied.

My two complains is that I want a clear and simple blog url, like how 360 use to be.

The only problem I had while blogging was that the finished copy has all sorts of questions marks in it that I didn’t insert. That is a problem for the types of blogs I try to write.

Otherwise, I’m indifferent. Just wish they’d stop changing everything on me every few weeks.

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

that is a good suggestion. The closest thing we have to that is the view all link. For now that is the blog address.

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

Hi Jed,
Great suggestion on the simple url– I’ve added it to the list of future enhancements, and have emailed you directly regarding your second issue/comment.

-Melissa

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Maybe put the simple url on the tab bar of profiles.easy to see to use.

 
 
 
Comment by Bruiser
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

And the discontent keeps rolling in….

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

bruiser, as a fellow user, not everybody’s discontented. I have friends who I am just getting back in synch with because of profiles. They were pissed with yahoo. And, they don’t mind it as it si as long as it function. Other friends are MAD AS HELL. So, it is a half boncontent and malcontent and some neutral.
And, as a fellow user, use profiles for what it can do. connect with your friends, try to get them to share their updates from wherever online they are at with you and start from there.
Change will come and when it does, you will choose the best path.

Comment by Bruiser
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

I would say it’s a safe bet that over half of the 360 users are jumping ship. Who knows how many actual profiles users have jumped ship already, but from the anecdotal evidence on these blogs I would say that it is more than half of them as well.

Spin it all you want, but this is ending up as a complete failure on Yahoo’s part, which it didn’t have to be if they had used some common sense.

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

I just dont see it that way.
Sometimes these commentaries are not proof. On yahoo buzz, the average commentaries towards the president don’t mimick his stated popularity. So, I think most people that comment on here, have something to complain about. Very few satisfied people come here thus the comments. And, it is not a failure by the actions of my friends lists. To be blunt, the best way to see it as a failure is to check your connections updates. If people see connections updates as barren, then profiles has issues, but I do not see that.
And, maybe that is the point. No one service demands the attentions of users. People go around and about in the internet today. I do. You do. I imagine most of us do. We jump all sorts of ships but always return as well

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Mike G
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 7:08 am

Give it time Bruiser…the new profiles looks pretty good. Yes it’s pretty basic right now but it has the bones. I already have a few connections and we buzz up news articles all the time…great way to stay current.

I agree with MK…not as many discontent people as you think. I would think more of those who aren’t happy are the one’s who take the time to post.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Kat
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

I am soooo disappointed in yahoo. I was sad 360 was closing. So i go set up my new profile. Next thing I know I can’t access it. What are you doing. Don’t you like the people that made yahoo successful? Come on Yahoo. Either fix it or just tell us to go somewhere else. It’s that easy.

 
Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

Yahoo is systematically destroying the only succesful user platforms they ever made: 360 and Yahoo Chat.
The only succesful thing they got going for them now, is Flickr. And they bought that.

Take away these things and what is Yahoo? Nothing. A mediocre news website with weather forcasts.

Now I couldn’t care less about who is who in the yahoo system and what they do to destroy their own company.

But I do care about having built an extensive network through the yahoo services, only to lose it all again, because of extremely stupid executive amateurism: Namely mis managing and destroying chat and 360!

I speak for thousands of previous Yahoo users here. And I know they wont come back before Yahoo atleast start paying attention to their chat based services. And the ONLY way to get this going again, is by re-introducing user created chat rooms.

But Yahoo is running scared because of over zealous watch dog groups, who believe that the only way to deal with online ‘predators’ is by getting rid of online communities entirely. It’s the same kind of logic behind using censorship to “protect” free speech. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Yahoo: Why did you ruin the chat communities of thousands of chatters, because of a few bad apples? Should we get rid of the internet too, because some people use it for criminal purposes? Should we get rid of books, because some people write dirty stories?

Grow some friggin spine!

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 7:19 am

abbey, what do you think of chatting in your yahoo mail?
I know it is not as robust as a room, but you can still chat?

Comment by Jeni C
MyAvatars 0.2

June 17th, 2009 at 1:00 am

I loathe having chat forced by YaHELL onto my e-mail page.
I access my Yahoo Mail page for dealing with my Yahoo e-mail. Not news. Not online chat.
Yahoo repeatedly force unwanted and unneeded convergent capabilities onto their pages whilst never providing the users with any way to turn off those mis-features, and then refuse to listen when the complaints from the users roll in.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 17th, 2009 at 9:20 am

Jeni C,
You can easily turn it off– here’s how:

Classic:

To sign out of or disable chat:

1. Under “Chat & Mobile Text” on the left of the page, click the menu to the right of the words “I am.” This opens a pull-down menu.
2. Click “Sign out of Chat”.

Since Yahoo! Mail remembers your settings from session to session, you’ll be signed out of chat until you change it.

All New Mail:

To sign out of or disable chat, please follow these steps:

Click the circle next to your Yahoo! ID at the top of the page. This opens a pull-down menu. Click Sign out of chat.

Since Yahoo! Mail remembers your settings from session to session, you’ll be signed out of chat until you change it.
-Melissa

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by Tatiana
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

I believe yahoo is so much better than facebook, twitter or any other website out there! We can take advantage of the mailbox(send,receive….so on) especiallly the ask and answer blog! The all in one package.

Yahoo Group you deserve Millions of THANKS!

 
Comment by Flutterbee
MyAvatars 0.2

June 9th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

With reluctance I have tried to migrate what I had on 360 to the new profile, but honestly, I moved to Multiply the first time you came up with MASH and said 360 was closing down. I find Multiply a great environment to socialize in and they even LISTEN to their customers and users.

I have migrated over to the new Yahoo profile for one reason only…to keep track of the friends that I found and connected with in Yahoo Chat. After you destroyed the chat rooms, by shutting down some rooms (my favorite 50’s overflow room)and allowing bots to taike over, I adopted 360 to stay connected to my friends. Through all the frustrations of the messes with 360 we managed to stay connected, and now yet another environment to migrate to trying to stay connected, but it appears only to be a simple drop a comment, type page.

Where is the ability to design your page, to manage what you see on your page, to add music, video, etc. What is this new profile for. Just a place to land teh people who think they are staying connected, but will eventually lose interest with this mundane environment and move on anyway?

Just slightly frustrated…can you tell? LOL

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 6:09 am

Flutterbee,
[I am not melissa, just a fellow yahoo user]
since you are on multiply, use mybloglog to place your multiply activities on your profile update stream. and that way your connections can keep up with you.Since you are not using your profile for blogging, then just use it as a place to share what your doing with connections those currently who may not be on multiply or may choose to go somewhere else like facebook over time, or those who may use twitter as well. Which can all be added to profile updates and shared with connections. Who says you will always be on multiply forever?

 
 
Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 4:32 am

To re-iterate my other comments:

- the ‘Updates’ do not show an update when someone comments on your blog.

Could you please fix this bug (it must be a bug … if my ‘Updates’ dont show updates to my profiles content, then it isn’t an updates system).

And having some decent privacy options … ohhh why do I bother. If you were serious about this you’d have done a good job.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 9:57 am

Mike,

Yes, it’s been filed as a bug/defect and the team is working on it.

As for privacy options, what do you mean? Can you explain more? Thanks!

-Melissa

Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

Okay. Thanks for the response.

The permissions to the blog are all or nothing. I’d like a blog where I decide who can read it, and who can comment on it. So I might like only connections to see, but not comment; or for all to see but connections alone comment. So, permissions not only to the blog, but also to blog comments.

And if you could give us a peek at the schedule of when these ‘issues’ might be addressed, that would be nice.

Or a view of the bugs/defects raised to prevent us raising known issues with you. Visibility. Information is good to share (see ‘Internet’ ;-) )

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 7:20 am

mike makes a good point, yahoo groups displayed what bugs they were working on

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 9:39 am

Hi Mike,
We do post the known issues on the help pages (http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/profiles/forms_index.html) but I am working on posting our schedule here.

As for permissions, this is already something we’re considering (users definitley need the option of turning off and on comments but still sharing their content).

-Melissa

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

That link gives me 12 issues … none of which cover faults I have raised (5 of these). Is there a list of *all* of the bugs somewhere? Things like – blog updates not notified; unable to invite contacts; no messages received; unable to find people via search mechanism…
I guess (hope!) there is a full list in Yahoo somewhere … let’s see that list please.

 
Comment by viri
MyAvatars 0.2

June 17th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

Melissa, please please PLEASE enable that option for messages too. I don’t want to have to receive unwanted messages from certain contacts on my list either. 360 offered that option. Please have it here too.

Don’t know if I commented in the right section but I believe this request is an important one.

Thx.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Steve
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 9:14 am

Ok I’ve bit my tongue up until now and tried to offer constructive criticism and been waiting patiently for nine months but enough is enough…

LOL how many of the 600 plus comments on 360 closing were asking you,

“Gee I’ve never blogged before, can you explain to me what pressing the Bold button will do etc?” haha not one right?? so it hardly merits a separate post on blogging 101.

I thought your main objective was to convince the millions of 360 users not to jump ship, that this half baked blogging platform will be up to speed and even better than 360 in a very short time?

Ok to summarize, you guys pretty much destroyed profiles about 9 months ago and apparently the top priority that everyone wanted to change in the new profiles was to add a blogging platform (not true, it was just the 360 users trying to find a reason to stay as they knew 360 was gonna be shut down sometime “soon”)

So 9 months later after supposedly listening to your users feedback you put out a half baked blogging platform…that’s it

Why are 99.9% of people’s profiles blank or show this message

“We didn’t tell this user that profiles were gonna change so we just decided to hide his profile like he doesn’t exist. Don’t worry, if he ever checks it AND figures out how to update it without hitting our numerous “glitches” his new profile will appear again on this page, so check back later, like say in 2012″

So I am not even gonna ask what is your timeframe on upgrading the new blogs capabilities or to implement all the other feature requests from the old profiles that people have been asking for the last nine months.

I can’t hold my breath that long sorry. Your feedback department is a black hole.

Your only saving grace at this stage would be to post your department’s schedule to implement some/most/all of the requested changes as the “I’ve passed that on to our programmers, we’re looking into it” etc etc comments have worn just a tad thin 9 months later

I give up and I’d gladly jump ship to the myriad of alternate choices that actually implement timely changes in response to user feedback except….all the lifeboats are full!

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 9:30 am

Hi Steve,
Thanks for your comment. Regarding your first question about why I posted a tutorial on using the new blog feature– this was done because while there’s still a group of displeased 360 users, there’s also a significant amount of traffic/users that comes to this blog that don”t comment, and are here for help on how to use their new profile. This isn’t just a forum for discontent. :)

In response to your question (”Why are 99.9% of people’s profiles blank or show this message “) this is actually due to privacy settings set by the user. In order to protect user’s information, we kept any profile that was set to private (or had portions of it set to private), private. You may also be seeing this if you’re trying to view a user’s alias and that user has decided to not link their alias to their main profile. This message will be seen whether the user has accessed their profile or not if they’ve opted to keep their alias separate. And, there’s also a handful of users who haven’t “activated” their profile yet and will show this message. These users are either new users, or people who never had a profile in the first place (on 360 or on the old profiles).

As I’ve said in previous comments, I’m working with the team on whether or not we can post some/all of our schedule. If possible, you’ll definitley see it here.

-Melissa

Comment by Bruiser
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

Handful? I’d be willing to bet BIG money that it’s the majority of your users.

Comment by Jeni C
MyAvatars 0.2

June 22nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm

Bruiser, I’d put it as better than odds on that the large number of users who refused to downgrade from the classic style Yahoo Profiles to the defective by design YaHELL Profools is why YaHELL terminated the backdoor access to the classic style profiles post haste.
This was likely done to force such users to downgrade to the YaHELL Profools system in order to make it look as though the YaHELL Profools was popular and being used.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by Tim L
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 9:51 am

Why does it have to be such a pain to insert pictures into the blogs? Upload to elsewhere before it can be put into the blog? Why not just upload into the blog? Take a lesson from Multiply.

 
Comment by Joy
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

Melissa are you even reading these? I see you answered exactly one of these 59 comments. Now this is supposed to be about the Blog right?
I have tried twice now to write a Blog and it continues to freeze up and I can’t not use the tab or other keys. On 360 we could actually write a blog while we were on the blog page and it went very smoothly. We could use spell check and edit it and it was very simple and we didn’t have to be frustrated or write someone for directions. I really would appreciate an answer regarding this matter and I am surprised that no one else seems concerned about it. Question #1 Are we able to write the blog while we are on the blog page itself? #2 Why is it freezing up? #3 Do we have to write it on notepad and then paste it? I read on here someplace that it didn’t work well using microsoft word.
Thanks

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 9:20 am

Hi Joy,
Yep– I’m reading all the comments and have responded to more than one comment. :)

I’m going to follow up with you via email to get more details on the issue, including your browser version, etc, as so far you’re the only user who has reported the tool freezing up.

You should be able to write a blog entry while you are on the blog page.

You shouldn’t compose entries in Word as they can cause issues with the post– but you certainly don’t need to compose an entry in notepad or wordpad.

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by zi
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

blog is the best

 
Comment by ramtin
MyAvatars 0.2

June 10th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

still “Sorry, this profile cannot be retrieved at the moment. Please try again.” problem.i email yahoo for help, and they say plz wait!!now plz help!!!

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 9:20 am

Ramtin,
Your issue should be resolved and you should be able to access your profile.

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by Julie
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 3:03 am

First off, I’m NOT a Yahoo aplologist, or in any way employed by them. Anything I say is just my loudmouth opinion…..

Melissa, that was a clear, and fairly complete tutorial on the blogging feature. It, or similar should be incorporated into the blog for access by pressing a “blog help” button, or “blogging tutorial” button on the blog page. (I havent looked, it may ;be there.)

On DIRECT UPLOAD FROM PC… I know this would make your life quick and easy, but it would make the blog servers bulky and slow!! You folks really dont want your blogs loading slowly do ya? Yahoo already has services for photos and videos to be uploaded that are maximized for this, and a simple link would work better than a slowly bloated blog directory that would take much longer to personally archive. (save back to your computer)
POSSIBLE SOLUTION: Yahoo Profiles was supposed to be instant gateway to everything yahoo, fine! Lets see a lil applet that automatically launches an “upload” image, or video, that opens the appropriate yahoo property (youtube, flickr) and saves the file to your “from my ;blog” folder under youtube, or flickr, and automatically embeds the file in your blog (sizeable iwndow for pics would be good) Simple for the user, a lil project for the techs..

On Yahoo chat…. Sorry, but Yahoo really doesnt have the resources to administer chat properly, thats why its free, and thats why even a “report abuse” button wont work there, Captcha doesnt work (or appear to) (report a bot would be a fun and useful button there, lol) User rooms were abused, and greatly so, thats why they are gone- at the request of the sponsors (the advertisers didnt want their products listed in those rooms and i dont blame them), BUT , this is a PROFILES blog.

Profile history 101: Yahoo had profiles, and they were simple , and easy to set up. Yahoo expanded profiles with Y360, and it was met with mixed reviews. Many users still didnt migrate to it, for various reasons, Classic Profies were brought back from abandonment for 360, and left in place as an alternate to 360 Now BOTH are gone in favor of the NEW PROFILES. Just a thought, Please, make the concept modular where the user doesnt have to keep throwing out the entire thing and rebuilding it every few years. If part of the package doesnt work, it shouldnt kill the whole design. Ideally, Yahoo should be able to change the profile system without totally wrecking what the user spent their hard earned time setting up. No offense, but with all the bugs, it appears the “testing lab” is being run in “simple model mode” , Beta tests should all be done on a “closed system”, and should be stress tested with the most complex scenarios thrown at the system as possible, not thrrown on the users to find the weaknesses.

Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

Sorry dude, but you got the wrong intel.

On June 19, 2005, with no advance warning, Yahoo! disabled users’ ability to create their own chat rooms. The move came after KPRC-TV in Houston, Texas reported that many of the user-created rooms were geared toward pedophilia.

Many regulars in these rooms used the rooms to set up meetings to have sex with children and trade lewd pictures. While it was thought this move came as a result of several advertisers pulling their ads from Yahoo!, a more likely cause was a $10 million lawsuit filed by watchdog groups of internet portals on behalf of a 12-year-old victim of molestation.

I used to chat in the user rooms, and believe me, these pedo jerks were the minority and they huddled in chatrooms called “dad for little girls” and crap like that.

Seriously if someone’s underage kid is hanging out in such a place and decides to go meet one of these pervs, I think it’s pretty much the responsibility of the parents. Sueing Yahoo for that is like sueing the architect of a building, because you tripped on the stairs. It’s just your typical passing of personal responsibility so you don’t have to face your own mistakes. You can blame it all on someone else. This is also known as law suit abuse.

I’m all for cracking down on pedofiles, but to kill the whole user room feature to do so was extreme over reaction. It was the equivalent of bulldozing your house to kill a rat. And the consequence has been that over 85% of Yahoo chatters left Yahoo afterwards. I doubt more than 2% of those were pedofile predators.

And the pervs that remained just went to other yahoo rooms. Nothing changed. Except now they pretty much got rid of all adult themed chatrooms. And Yahoo chat has become a barren wasteland of bots.

Why do I bring it up here on the PROFILES BLOG, as you so politely pointed out?
Where else should I bring it up? If Yahoo introduces new features, they need to understand that most people don’t want them. They want the old ones back. No, this is the right place to do it.

 
Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

Sorry dude, but you got the wrong intel.

On June 19, 2005, with no advance warning, Yahoo! disabled users’ ability to create their own chat rooms. The move came after KPRC-TV in Houston, Texas reported that many of the user-created rooms were geared toward pedophilia.

Many regulars in these rooms used the rooms to set up meetings to have sex with children and trade lewd pictures. While it was thought this move came as a result of several advertisers pulling their ads from Yahoo!, a more likely cause was a $10 million lawsuit filed by watchdog groups of internet portals on behalf of a 12-year-old victim of molestation.

I used to chat in the user rooms, and believe me, these pedo jerks were the minority and they huddled in chatrooms called “kinky kids” and crap like that.

Seriously if someone’s underage kid is hanging out in such a place and decides to go meet one of these pervs, I think it’s pretty much the responsibility of the parents. Sueing Yahoo for that is like sueing the architect of a building, because you tripped on the stairs. It’s just your typical passing of personal responsibility so you don’t have to face your own mistakes. You can blame it all on someone else. This is also known as law suit abuse.

I’m all for cracking down on pedofiles, but to kill the whole user room feature to do so was extreme over reaction. It was the equivalent of bulldozing your house to kill a rat. And the consequence has been that over 85% of Yahoo chatters left Yahoo afterwards. I doubt more than 2% of those were pedofile predators.

And the pervs that remained just went to other yahoo rooms. Nothing changed. Except now they pretty much got rid of all adult themed chatrooms. And Yahoo chat has become a barren wasteland of bots.

Why do I bring it up here on the PROFILES BLOG, as you so politely pointed out?
Where else should I bring it up? If Yahoo introduces new features, they need to understand that most people don’t want them. They want the old ones back. No, this is the right place to do it.

 
Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 11:12 am

Sorry dude, but you got the wrong intel.

On June 19, 2005, with no advance warning, Yahoo! disabled users’ ability to create their own chat rooms. The move came after KPRC-TV in Houston, Texas reported that many of the user-created rooms were geared toward pedophilia.

Some regulars in these rooms used the rooms to set up meetings with children and trade lewd pictures. While it was thought this move came as a result of several advertisers pulling their ads from Yahoo!, a more likely cause was a $10 million lawsuit filed by watchdog groups of internet portals on behalf of a 12-year-old victim of molestation.

I used to chat in the user rooms, and believe me, these perverts were the minority and they huddled in chat rooms called “dad for little girls” etc.

Seriously if someone’s underage kid is hanging out in such a place and decides to go meet one of these perverts, I think it’s pretty much the responsibility of the parents. Suing Yahoo for that is like suing the architect of a building, because you tripped on the stairs. It’s just your typical passing of personal responsibility so you don’t have to face your own mistakes. You can blame it all on someone else. This is also known as law suit abuse.

I’m all for cracking down on child abusers, but to kill the whole user room feature to do so was extreme over reaction. It was the equivalent of bulldozing your house to kill a rat. And the consequence has been that over 85% of Yahoo chatters left Yahoo afterwards. I doubt more than 2% of those were potential predators.

And the perverts that remained just went to other yahoo rooms. Nothing changed. Except now they pretty much got rid of all adult themed chat rooms. And Yahoo chat has become a barren wasteland of bots.

Why do I bring it up here on the PROFILES BLOG, as you so politely pointed out?
Where else should I bring it up? If Yahoo introduces new features, they need to understand that most people don’t want them. They want the old ones back. No, this is the right place to do it.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 9:24 am

Abbey,
I appreciate you referencing the initial legal battle that required the shut down of user created rooms, but as Julie mentioned, the correct place to do this isn’t the profiles blog, it’s the Messenger blog as they control chat rooms. (http://ymessengerblog.com).

However, there they’ll probably say the same thing as me– it’s unfortunate that “one bad apple can ruin the bushel” but this is part of the action that was taken/must be taken to prevent these encounters (at least to some degree).

-Melissa

Comment by Sean
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 10:38 am

Melissa,

The problem we have is that I think Sarah Bacon believes they don’t control chat, because any posts about chat on the blog from users are removed by the very strict (over-strict) moderators (or Sarah herself) on that blog.

On that same blog, they rarely post anything about chat.

I think it’s about time somebody at Yahoo! comes clean and says chat, a once great product, is going to be abandoned, because to me, and others, it’s clear this is the direction Yahoo! are going down because nothing is being done to either the client (all the bugs in Messenger that myself and others reported over the last years) or the server (bots, booters, profile data etc.).

To keep this slighlty on topic, over half a year later, still chat uses the old profile data! No change is this complicated, it’s just looking at a different data source – I think the lack of this change just goes to prove the above point (after all, don’t change something you don’t plan to keep)

Sean.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 10:48 am

Don’t be so hard on Sarah– she’s a great person. :)

As for why they don’t post about chat, it’s because as you say, there’s not a ton to report. No sense in posting an entry that doesn’t notify you of changes. Additionally, it’s because whenever there’s a post about chat, it’s hit incredibly hard by spam and makes it unbearable for users who want to post constructive comments. Don’t get me wrong– chat isn’t being ignored, but there are unfortunately, a lot of details and aspects that have to be managed behind the scenes before things can be pushed out/changed. We’re completely aware of the fact that spammers, bots, and trolls target chat rooms and make it an inhospitable environment for legitimate users. We’re working on spam prevention initiatives across the network that will make your experiences on Y! better. (And, will keep out the “bad guys” a little bit better).

As for chat using the old profile data, this is a known issue (Groups and Games also use old profile data) and this should change in the coming months.

-Melissa

 
Comment by Sean
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am

Thanks for responding (and on a Sunday!)

 
Comment by mal_igned
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 3:50 am

Indeed.

It’s significant that in just the past few comments there’s been more response to chat issues here than in the Messenger blog. Sarah may well be a “great person” but responding to user complaints and concerns is not one of her notable qualities. (I wait to see this comment removed for “bashing” of a Yahoo employee.)

To get back on topic: Although I have absolutely zero interest in blogging, I think the Tutorial that starts this entry is excellent, and is the sort of thing that should pop up when one clicks Help, instead of being sent to Help Central, where I’ve rarely found anything truely helpful.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Julie
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 4:46 am

The Houston news broadcast did not make the news in my market area, as they had their own “evils of the internet” investigations going. The Sponsors’ uproar DID. The lawsuit also was only mentioned on the news in my area as a footnote to the sponsor’s withdrawal, as it was a still pending case at the time.
Not everyone or even the majority of the users in the user chats was part of the problem, but, the severity of the problem could not be ignored.

 
 
Comment by Tim L
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 8:50 am

“On DIRECT UPLOAD FROM PC… I know this would make your life quick and easy, but it would make the blog servers bulky and slow!! You folks really dont want your blogs loading slowly do ya? Yahoo already has services for photos and videos to be uploaded that are maximized for this, and a simple link would work better than a slowly bloated blog directory that would take much longer to personally archive. (save back to your computer)”

Take a lesson from Multiply: works there and does not slow it down. Since Yahoo already has the services for photos and video why not be able to do the upload directly there from within the blog not having to go to another site at all? You say you want input from the public but what I see are mostly excuses and not a ‘can do’ attitude.

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 7:24 am

I think you and julie both mentioned the same idea tim,
I use the blog and i think it would be cool if we could upload to flickr from the blog. and upload to yahoo video from the blog. it would be cool.

 
 
Comment by House MD
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 9:22 am

Ive had my new profile set up for quite some time now, and I was very happy to see that Yahoo has finally added the ability to blog. I was concerned about losing the many many blogs that I already have, but since you have incorporated a way to transfer them I was no concerned.
I followed the instructions listed, and the next day I recieved e-mail conformation that my blogs have been transfered. However, I am a bit upset right now because out of the 228 blogs, the system only transfered 2 of them!
Your assistance in this matter would be greatly appriciated.

 
Comment by Son
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 10:36 am

I can access my profile. Why?

Sorry, this profile cannot be retrieved at the moment. Please try again.

 
Comment by Frank
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

SORRY for the double post, but I noticed that some HTML tags that I was inserting as examples didn’t show up in the previous comment. Please delete the other comment.

Here is the revised comment:

The BLOG editor on Profile’s has some problems. First of all,
when I’m composing a paragraph and hit “enter” to start a
new paragraph, it starts a new paragraph ok, but when I check the HTML, I see it just inserted two “br’s” which is fine I guess, but I expected it to end the current paragraph with “/p” and start a new paragraph with “p”. I think that is a bug!! Also, editing after inserting an image that fills the width of the edit box causes the text to jump side
to side as I’m typing. I got really dizzy trying to compose a long winded
blog. Also when I click the mouse to move the insertion point to a new
spot, the edit window isn’t alligned properly and I was confused as
to where the cursor was. That took a liitle getting used to. I also miss
the smileys and spell checker on the blog editor. Can you please fix
these bugs in the Profile blog editor? Perhaps you should steal the blog
editor code from 360!! :-) I never had these problems with that blog editor
and I’ve been using 360 for at least 2 years. I’d like to stick
with Yahoo’s new Profile thing, but if it continues to be a pain to
create new blogs, I may go some place else.

Thanks so much,
Frank

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 10:03 am

Hi Frank,
Funny– I remember writing a response to your issue when you reported it to Customer Care as the CC team asked for my help. :)

I’ll repost what I sent them:

Part 1: spacing
This is a standard aspect of many blogging sites (WordPress does this as well). If the user wants to add a single line return instead of a double line return (which is the default) have him hold shift when you hits the return/enter key. This should produce the desired result.

Part 2: Editing around an image
To avoid this, you can easily switch over to HTML mode, which will strip the image from the display. Once you locate the place that needs editing he can edit his text there, instead of in the WYSYWIG editor.

Part 3: Mouse pointer
No idea on this one. What browser/operating system are you using as I’m not able to reproduce this.

Part 4: Smileys/spell checker
I’ve added this to the list of enhancements.

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by House MD
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

Well upon further investigation into my problem, and lots of reading, I have discovered why my blogs did not transfer. It seems that blogs marked “mature content” are not allowed on the new system, therefore my blogs did not transfer. I attempted to go back into my blogs and unmark all 226 so that they would transfer, and what do ya know… I can not unmark them!
So at this point what are my options? download and repost all 226. And what happens to the thousands and thousands of comments I have for all the blogs?
Your help and attention to this matter would be greatly appriciated.
Thank You

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 10:06 am

Hi House MD, (love that show!)

Yes, if you have adult content or your profile is marked mature your content will not migrate over but can be downloaded.

You cannot unmark these blogs– this setting is permanent in our system to prevent people from passing off adult content as, well, not-adult.

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by Steve
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

Melissa,

Thanks for your response to my comments.
I really hope you can publish a “planned feature/fixes implementation” soon to give me hope!

Steve

 
Comment by Carl Starrett
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

This grade school level blog feature has been available on Shine since day one and you are just now moving it over to profiles? You can’t justify the text or even have a spellchecker. How about and RSS feed?

 
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

Well, I did mine, how am I looking Miss Daniels, Melissa? http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KHTHJHPBUIIV4IN3EUBEUZNTS4

 
Comment by SMØWID
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

Hi Moved al stuff from 360° and I´m sorry to say that a lot of HTML doesn´t work at all I got a “tons” of HTML that was rejected so the presentation´s look bad, sorry to say. It seems that Yahoo haven´t done their homework why?? Been using 360° for a while and this so-called Profile blog is not working properly, I mean can´t the Pro´s at Yahoo do it better ?

 
Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

…so! Twice I have been trying to post an answer to one of the blog comments, and twice it didn’t show up here.

What’s the deal??

 
Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

Does your system auto-block posts with certain words?

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 10:08 am

Yes– we have a list of words held for moderation/blacklist.

-Melissa

Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 11:05 am

Well that makes it really hard to say anything here! There is not one swear word in the post I have been trying to upload here, so what that list of forbidden words contains can only be speculated on.

Basically I find it a very dubious act, to censor words. Swear words I can understand and even accept. But otherwise….? What should I do? Go through the post I want to add and replace every single noun and verb with alternatives???

I am rolling my eyes here, in case you can’t tell.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 9:48 am

Abbey,
The only words that are censored are swear words and permutations of them. (As well as typical spam words that relate to male enhancement products).

Your posts have been pushed through and shouldn’t have been held for moderation (I also see that you were able to successfully post the message (about chat rooms) without moderation help).

-Melissa

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 3:17 am

Yes I was finally able to get it through after changing several words. I don’t know which word was the problem, but I have a feeling that it was a 3 letter word ending with x.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by pilsener
MyAvatars 0.2

June 11th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

[Add Media: Click on this icon to embed a video from your favorite video sites into your entry. All you need to do is grab the embed code and click “Done.” ]

Not really, Melissa. The video works fine in preview mode. but when we click “Done”, Profiles shows a blank page and Internet Explorer reports “waiting for http://profiles.yahoo.com/blog/……

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 7:26 am

I think internet explorer has problems with the new blog, i use firefox and everything seems okay

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 10:11 am

Do you have this same issue when using other browsers?

-Melissa

Comment by pilsener
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

I tried both Internet Explorer 8 and Firefox 3.0.8 but nothing change, the page still blank and the video doesn’t work.

This is the embeded code of the vid:

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 10:35 am

Hi Pilsener,
Your embed code didn’t work here– please email me directly so we can work together to resolve this.

yahooprofiles [at] yahoo-inc [dot] com

-Melissa

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by House MD
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 7:03 am

Still no suggestions on how to fix my problem? (please see earlier post)

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 10:21 am

Hi House–
I replied to your issue above, but I’ll repost here:

Yes, if you have adult content or your profile is marked mature your content will not migrate over but can be downloaded.

You cannot unmark these blogs– this setting is permanent in our system to prevent people from passing off adult content as, well, not-adult.

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by Nikoss
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 10:49 am

i use Yahoo the last 2-3 years..

the most important thing for me now is the QUESTBOOK !

when i am writting comments on my friends profile , i dont want to have the comment on my guestbook too! …. please you must change this…soon….

we dont like it…

on my guestbook i want to have only the comments from my friends ! and not my comments too! i hope you will listen to us…

 
Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 11:14 am

I have an issue with connections. If I removes someone from contacts who is also in my connections, I can’t remove the person from my connections afterwards.
The don’t even show up on my Connections list, eventhough they show up in Connections Box on my profile.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 9:57 am

To remove a connection you need to click on the Contacts tab (http://profiles.yahoo.com/contacts.php) and click “Delete” after selecting the desired contact.

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

Also can you please make it possible to go to your profile from your messenger? We used to have a “my profiles” tab, which is gone now.

The only way I can get to my profile is by adding myself as friend, right click on my name and choose ‘view profiles’.

That seems a bit unhandy for a program bragging about it’s many user features.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 9:26 am

Hi Abbey,
This is definitley a feature we’re looking at incorporating (potentially allowing the integration of pingbox (http://messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/)) into your profile.

-Melissa

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 11:29 am

if you allow the pingbox, you need to make sure it is never set for anyone. If anyone can ever access a users pingbox on their profile it would be the beginning of what negates messengers chat rooms issues.
also, having a pingbox for quick hellos is redundant when you have a guestbook.
I advocated for a pingbox or a chat module, i believe, but in retrospect, it needs to be thought out well. And specified.
Maybe ,
connect the pingbo to the blog.
When people go to a specific blog entry, a pingbox for quick comments, an 1/8th or a 1/4 of the size of a blog comment , is available for connections to use. This is a way that people can conversate around the blog entry. While the comments allow people to really say what they have to say.
for the frontpage of the profile the pingbox is simply visual. It shows the latest pingbox’s entries regardless of which specific blog entry. Each entry has a link to the blog it was made from.

I think guestbooks are enough for quick hellos and they allow embeding which will not occur in a pingbox, so pingbox’s need to be used for another purpose. LEts not make the profile front page, cluttered or redundant. At the moment it seems to me to have enough modules. Lets not add endless amounts of them. But, if we add modules to the front page, their function has to be better

 
 
 
Comment by Steve
MyAvatars 0.2

June 12th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

Melissa,

I would like to suggest that instead of the blog module showing linked titles to blog posts, that it actually shows the posts or at least your latest post, like the Guestbook does. That way people can see your post/s right on your profile page without having to do find the blog module and do another click to see what you posted… since the blog will no doubt become the most important part of the profile when more features are added.

Thanks,

Steve

 
Comment by mickie b.
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 7:29 am

might be nice to do this but there is NO button on my profile page only some lame crap about learning more,add connections..then BLANK SPACE!!! Don’t advertise availability if only a select few can do it!!!

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 9:50 am

This feature is available in all profiles– if you’re missing the button/feature, please report the issue to Customer Care so they can look into your profile. http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/profiles/general.html

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by mickie b.
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 7:30 am

right now this sucks!!!

 
Comment by blondie
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 10:41 am

Dear Melissa,

This comment really should be in your previous post, but I wanted to make sure the other users see it. I’m copying and pasting something I read online this morning, regarding Facebook looking like Twitter. I think it’s relevant since Yahoo! Profiles looks so much like Facebook AND Twitter. Honestly, Yahoo! had a wonderful thing in 360…it’s a shame the powers that be there decided to pull the plug, disregarding the wishes of the (formerly) loyal users.

“Remember the uproar over the latest Facebook re-design? Earlier this year, when Facebook moved towards a more Twitter-like homepage that focuses on status updates, the opposition was fierce – so much so that the company quickly responded to criticism and announced some changes they’d be making to bring back the features that users were missing.

Now, Facebook might go even further than planned, essentially returning to something very similar to the previous design. After speaking with Facebook sources, VentureBeat reports that “information from the “highlights” section will be integrated back into the stream, in some sort of combination of status updates and everything else on the site.”

Why the change? Well, it turns out a lot of Facebook’s 200 million users aren’t like us – keeping the site open constantly or watching updates stream in real-time through a desktop client like TweetDeck or Seesmic Desktop. In turn, the concern is that these less active users are missing out on a lot of updates from friends, which, means less value from the service

Although recent numbers suggest that Facebook is still growing at an incredibly fast rate, the company clearly sees something it doesn’t like – whether it’s qualitative feedback from users, or crunching numbers behind the scenes. If the rumored changes come to pass, rest assured there is a reason behind it.”

Imagine that. A company that listens to feedback from it’s users and ACTS ON IT. And it’s still “growing at an incredibly fast rate”.

Your new gal there at Yahoo! should take a note here.

Comment by Jack
MyAvatars 0.2

June 13th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

blondie,

I agree with your comments, but you have to understand Yahoo’s position at the moment. Yahoo is not Facebook, a hot property that is growing at an extraordinary rate. Neither is it Google, who dominates the search engine market (meaning $$$). Yahoo is a collection of web properties that have very little connection and integration with one another. Profiles is an attempt to fix that. For Yahoo, this is really a make it or break it attempt. My feeling is that if Profile fails (and there’s certainly a high probability for that), Yahoo will divest itself of the various web properties it has (why keep it in the same company if there’s little integration and synergy to be had). As a brand, Yahoo feels old and needs to reinvigorate itself. I think Bartz, Yahoo’s CEO, has the guts to do that, but Yahoo needs to be redefined in a new order dominated by Facebook, Google and (possibly) Twitter. Yahoo does not want to end up like AOL (and even AOL is changing fast, thanks to a new CEO).

Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 3:46 am

Both sets of good points. BUT companies are successful if they are significantly better at delivering a service than the existing competition (Google taking the search market by offering a simpler, better service than the plethora that existed 5 years ago); or deliver a service that no-one else offers – unique selling points (the Twitter model).
Now, Profiles *does* look like Facebook … extendible, configurable interfaces with 3rd party apps, sharing marketing information. But Yahoo isn’t going to out-Facebook Facebook. If you want a Facebook you’d be on Facebook and using it now. And Yahoo doesn’t have the direction or resources to compete. And how does it even hope to eat into that market share? The reason why people are using Profiles is because friends from 360 or Yahoo are there. They wont jump ship from Facebook when their friends are there. There’s no compelling reason.
So, as a clone it wont work. That’s no plan.
What Yahoo should have done is figure out why 360 users were 360 users and not Facebook ones – what was unique; what kept them coming back despite the obvious flaws. Then use that as the basis for extending and expanding the user base. All this move has done is disenfranchised the current core of loyal users whilst offering nothing unique to attract new ones. It’s not that this is a bad business plan – I can’t even see a business plan in it (e.g. “it’s not a blogging service, so there’s no blog” – after complaints about no blog, “okay, here is a poor blogging service” – it is or isnt a blogging service, make up your mind). I cannot see *how* this new service would attract anyone. And I think web stats show this. The 360 traffic isn’t now shifted to Profiles, it’s gone elsewhere. And with nothing (literally) to bring them back, that sounds like the game for Yahoo.

Comment by Shell
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 6:01 am

I couldn’t agree more MIke… Nicely put.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by Lori
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 2:13 am

Unreal. We’ve been waiting 2 years for this garbage? 360 was a winner. Now we can’t import friends and I can’t even import my blog entries because my blog was marked as “Mature”. No background design, and those updates are really annoying (thankfully, you can turn them off). Yahoo’s been unbelievably arrogant the past two years. They’ve kept their members in the dark while 360 rotted with tech issues. When we finally got the new profile…..YAWN. Every single one looks the same. Only one photo can be posted on the page….just a loser all the way around. You’ll continue to lose members and won’t be able to attract new ones. The amazing thing was that people have been continuing to get 360 pages the past few weeks. 360 was fantastic. Thanks for not listening, Yahoo. We certainly appreciate it.

 
Comment by Lori
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 2:22 am

I wanted to add that as much as I hate MySpace and Facebook, at least they’re smart enough to stick with something that works. And I’m glad to see that the stupid code we have to enter to get into chat rooms really keeps the bots out, huh? The second you get in (after entering it correctly and being denied entry 10 times), you’re slammed with bot PMs. Does Yahoo do anything right? I’m only keeping my profile until my friends and I can decide on another place. Then it’s bye bye Yahoo.

 
Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 3:54 am

Here’s a nice little challenge.

Go through what a typical 360 user does in a ‘360 session’, e.g. see what their friends have been up to; chat in comments; message in private; blog; comment on blogs; change their background; update their avatars; change their blast and link; amend their profile and quote … all those silly little unique things they liked to do, and did with regularity —- and say how that same user will achieve the same things in the new Yahoo world. If Profiles isn’t a 360 replacement, then maybe Yahoo can indicate how these actions will be replicated across the estate of Yahoo applications, with Profiles being the centralized updates location.

Take each thing that I mention and give me the ‘new, improved’ replacement. Dont even stick to Yahoo things … anything can be suggested. If this is what Yahoo want us now to do, then lets have a ‘How To’ that isn’t just about blogging but a ‘How To’ about the whole experience.

Over to you Yahoo. You must have this planned out … surely …

 
Comment by Shell
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 5:57 am

The whole new profile is useless! What is the point of setting this up and letting people use it if you haven’t even bothered to work out all the bugs yet? It is beyond frustrating!!! Plus it shows a distinct lack of respect to your users… no wonder other network sites are getting more popular.

The font size button doesn’t work.
It keeps underlining my text even when I don’t want it to.
I can’t embed photo slideshows like I could on 360… I’ve been trying for over an hour!
It won’t remove updates I don’t want people to see (and yes I have emptied my caches!)

The worst thing you people ever did was delete 360… BIG MISTAKE… HUGE!

Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 7:06 am

Yes. Yahoo has failed on two counts here.

1. Released a service that has bugs in it, with incomplete utilities for exporting blogs, even though they had promised content would be preserved over 18 months ago (it’s mind-boggling – “no we can’t migrate your blog if over 15MB”; “didn’t you know it was over 15MB?” “ummmm … no” “errr … dont you host the current blogs?” How hard was it to find out the size of blogs you were storing and come up with an appropriate utility)

2. Released a service which lacks several of the most used features of the service it was ‘replacing’. Again, given that Yahoo supply the service it is a trivial task to determine which parts within that service were most used, and thus know which were most important. In fact, it’s so trivial the solicitation of user input about the replacement should merely have been concerning new feature requirements. What was currently being used most was internally identifiable, and should have been the focus of the replacement.

If the first point is disappointing, yet believable (software can have bugs, although some of these smack of poor effort on Yahoo’s part); the second is staggering. The only way I can understand it at all is that Yahoo don’t want 360 (evident), nor are concerned about retaining any of those users. But that’s simply bizarre – revenue comes from advertising, which is sold based on size of user-base and hit counts. So losing users is bad. Very bad. And if Yahoo just want ‘out’ then why bother with this service at all? Pull back. Stick to mail and messenger. I just don’t get it. Yahoo can’t be serious about this being a long-term solution, it’s too ‘empty’ and ill-conceived for that. So what is the plan? It baffles me.

And I won’t even start about 360plus … how coordinated is this approach?

Comment by Jack
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 8:28 am

Good points Mike. I think Yahoo’s approach is to differentiate itself from Facebook and Google by being the most open web platform, meaning it will take other services and applications. They are pushing this idea of a web platform OS.

With regards to 360, I really don’t think they care much about the users. Sure, the corporate party line will always be that they want to make sure 360 users will adjust to the new profile and they are doing everything to ease that transition. But you really have to put things into perspective. comScore was putting it for worldwide uniques at ~10 million for Sept. 07. To Yahoo, that is really not a huge number (compared to Yahoo frontpage, which gets about ~95 million uniques/month, or Yahoo Mail, which gets about 95 million uniques as well). For them, pissing off 360 users (~10 million) vs. the potential to build something that the rest of the 95 million+ visitors may use seems to be worth the gamble. That ~10 million may not be a total lost either — some people MAY like this new profile system. Yahoo cannot keep multiple social networks as that will dilute the marketing message of a single profile system.

But you are correct. Yahoo cannot just copy Facebook’s status update stream and expect to be successful.There needs to be more compelling reasons for users to choose Yahoo over Facebook. Yahoo should be looking at FriendFeed and learn as that appears to be the direction Yahoo is heading with Profiles.

In the grand scheme of things though, closing 360 is not even close to Yahoo’s history of blunders. For those, there’s a long list.. notable ones being failing to buy Facebook, failing to buy Google for $1 billion, paying way too much for both Geocities and Broadcast.com.. the list goes on and on… so 360 closure when compared to those is really not a big deal ;)

Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

Yep … valid points. Although any user-base loss is bad and shouldn’t be treated lightly. It costs 3 times more to recruit a new user than to keep an old one. That’s 10 million lost(?) I can’t fathom why Yahoo didn’t launch profiles as an update hub and retain 360 as a social network. Increasing its visibility by inference of having a 360 update channel. My only thoughts are that it was worried about ‘mature content’ and was happy to lose the 30/40/50 brigade in the hope of getting a percentage of the teens and 20s. But to attract, you need something attractive. Outside of the updates system, Profiles has, well, nothing. No photo-streaming, video linking, audio, customisation, visual appeal. Nadda. Nix. Nothing. And it’s been *launched* like this after 2 yrs of work. There’s simply nothing there. The only interaction is via a blog or comment line, both of which arrived late and incomplete.

And People Search is so bad at finding; and yesterday I noticed the first occurrence of “sorry – unavailable right now” – didn’t take long for availability to drop off.

Plus I notice I have set my Y!Answers to share updates and they *dont* appear. (sigh) does any of this look good?

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Jack
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

Yes. I would give Yahoo an A- for ideas (open web platform), but D for execution (e.g. 2 years to get this profile thing up and running??). Somehow, the good ideas just cannot be turned into a reality, and even if they did, they are very late in the game. So, based on this, it’s a management issue, and not a technology issue — so bringing in Bartz is probably a good choice.

Y!Answers is a hot property that they need to take advantage of. It is by far the leader in QnA sites. There’s a lot of really good web properties under Yahoo that need more resources to grow to their fullest potential. I think that would have been a wiser move than to invest in Profiles. Instead of being the central core for a Yahoo user, it shold just be a stream of updates from any website, anywhere, allowing others to comment directly on those updates. It should function rather invisibly and integrated into each web property instead of being a destination itself.

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:18 am

@Mike–
Regarding the Answers sharing– this is a two step process– you have to switch it on in profiles and also in Answers. Did you do this? (You’ll see a link at the bottom of the page when you’re answering or submitting an answer.)

It looks like this when expanded:

If you don’t set this to “Share my Updates” they wont show up in your profile. Also, it’s not retroactive so it will show any questions or answers you submit once you’ve changed this setting.

-Melissa

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:19 am

@Jack,
Yes– there are lots of properties under Yahoo’s umbrella that could use some development and are getting it. This is part of the “cleaning house” effort Carol Bartz and the whole company is working on– shutting down properties that we don’t plan on developing, expanding, etc. and adding more resources to properties that could easily thrive and flourish.

-Melissa

 
Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 11:55 am

To Melissa, re: Y!Answers updates.

Yes – I had changed this in Answers, but had selected to share ‘Yahoo Updates’ in my profile, rather than Y!Answers updates.

It’s a bit confusing, as the pop-up in Answers talks about ‘Yahoo Updates’ and identifies itself with the purple Y!, so you think it must be a ‘Yahoo Update’ that Answers shares with the world. However, in the profiles ‘Share’ settings there is a setting for Y! Answers and for Y! Updates. I set the Updates thing on not the Answers thing on. In fact, I am now confused. What exactly does the ‘Yahoo! Updates’ sharing relate to? Is this a super-set of all the updates or something completely different?

Given that there are over 100 Yahoo! updates you can share I can see some house-keeping is in order…

…pity that you dont classify 360 as a property that could easily thrive and flourish, as it so clearly can.

 
Comment by Jack
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

@Melissa,

Agreed. With the distraction of an acquisition deal with Microsoft out of the way (kind of), Yahoo can now concentrate on fixing and growing its business.

@Mike,

Let’s connect up and give this Profiles thing a spin (click on my name to go to my profile).

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

@Jack
YES! That’s what I like to see/hear! ;)

-Melissa

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

@Mike,
You should have it switched on in your profile and in Answers. And yes, I’d agree with tidying up the place a bit. :)

Updates is a generic term across Yahoo referring to your activity on the network. Anywhere you have updates turned on, these should show up in your profile.

If you’re still not seeing them in your profile, shoot me an email and I’ll have someone look– yahooprofiles [at] yahoo-inc [dot] com.

-Melissa

 
 
 
 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 10:28 am

Hi Shell,
This is the first report I’ve heard of where people are saying the font size button doesn’t work… please report this issue to customer care and ask them to open a bug (you can include my name in the email if you’d like). (http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/profiles/general.html) The same goes for the underline function.

As for embedding photo slideshows, how are you doing this? If you have the embed code you should be able to switch over to HTML mode and stick the code in there.

How are you trying to remove updates? If they’re in your stream and you want to exclude certain updates you need to click on the small “x” next to the update to remove it. If you’d like to turn off updates for a specific service you need to go to the “Manage my Updates” (http://profiles.yahoo.com/settings/updates/) page or the “Share More” page (http://profiles.yahoo.com/share_more.php) and adjust your settings.

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by Shell
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 6:04 am

If the mighty Facebook can admit it’s wrong and listen to it’s users… why can’t Yahoo?

 
Comment by Anna-Maria
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 9:58 am

Hi Mellissa,

Here is my wish list for the new profiles.

Can we please stop comments we make in other peoples guest books appearing in our own? This is so unnecessary and just clutters up the guestbook.
Can we have a way of customising our profile page? Perhaps we could have a way to change the background colours, the font that we write in and its size and colour.
Could we have a choice of fonts in the blogging platform and perhaps the ability to change the background colour of the blog page to make it more personal?
Can we have the ability to write blogs in word and copy and paste them without strange symbols appearing in the text?

In short can we have everything that Yahoo has decided to abandon with the closure of Y360 included in our new profiles?
I wait with baited breath for your list of the improvements that Yahoo intends to make.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 10:50 am

Hi Anna-Maria,
All of these things have been suggested by other users (with the exception of the Word copy/paste suggestion) and have been filed as feature requests.

Thanks for adding your vote.

-Melissa

Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

Hi Melissa.

Working on Sunday?????

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am

:)

I work every day (and respond to comments every day (usually)) to make sure you guys know someone is here, reading and responding.

-Melissa

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

and I thank you for it melissa

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Steve
MyAvatars 0.2

June 14th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

haha yup she’s working on a Sunday so ya gotta give her credit for that, even though she didn’t reply to you or Jack’s well made points, yet!

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:20 am

Steve,
None of Jack or Mike’s points really required a response– I’ve responded since, but since they’re having a great discussion about the properties and don’t have any direct questions, there’s not a lot to respond to (but a lot to read).

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by mal_igned
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 4:09 am

Posted here so it doesn’t get lost…

What is the logic behind allowing Mature Content in Groups but not in Profiles or Blogs? How are we supposed to let people know we’re interested in such things? — Not that making those kinds of Connections through Yahoo matters to me anymore. Yahoo has pretty much made that impossible.

When is Yahoo gonna grow up?

Comment by Anna-Maria
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 11:32 am

The fact that the new profile does not support ‘mature content’ is one of the few things that I agree with. I was one of the people that fought hard to get the ‘adult warning’ page removed from the old profiles and I really welcome Yahoo’s attitude with this issue.

If you want ‘adult’ content I suggest you go find a porn site.
As for ‘adult’ groups I for one am sick of gettiing invitations to join ‘naughty girls do it on cam’ and such like and I think it is you that need to grow up mal_igned and not Yahoo.

Comment by mal_igned
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

I get it. Clicking ‘Back’ or exit or whatever the choice was to not view an Adult Profile wasn’t good enough for you. You didn’t want the Choice. And you wanted to make sure no one else had the choice, either.

Unwanted Group Invitations are as easy to delete as any other spam. But you want Yahoo to protect you from having to make that choice, too.

If you try hard enough, I’m sure you can think up a way to prevent ANY Group from inviting ANYONE.

I know you. I know your type.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

And, to officially put the brakes on this convo I’ll throw in the official “word”– Groups is one of the few properties that does still support adult content and we’re actively working on ways to prevent people from “stumbling across it” and protecting minors. (No, this doesn’t mean that Groups has any plan to eliminate adult content, so don’t stress– instead, it means we’re always looking at protecting people who don’t want to find it, including refining search results and settings).

I understand both sides of the argument and can totally see how it comes off as a mixed message.

mal_igned I also understand the frustration with being in an adult group but feeling like you can’t express yourself fully with your new profile. As a heads up, we don’t crack down on profiles that aren’t explicit. So, if you say you’re into “adult role-playing” that’s totally okay. We just don’t want you outlining one of the situations. (BTW, I’m not accusing you of this or saying you’re into it, I’m merely using it as an example).

As for Anna-Maria’s comment, yes– I hate clicking on a profile that I thought was a-ok and then seeing a bit more than I planned on seeing. It’s frustrating when you’re looking for a friend and find, well, more than that.

Having a clear cut rule on profiles (saying no mature content) allows us (and you) to easily regulate and, promotes impartial judgment when reviewing user accounts. By preventing explicit profile photos and content we’re able to quickly pull down profiles that violate this (especially if they’re set to be viewable by “anyone”)– and, make it easier for people to know when/why they’ve “crossed the line” instead of having them wonder.

Back to mal_igned, hopefully this will alleviate some of the confusion, and we are working on something with the groups team (I’m also on that team) to serve as a bridge to this issue– but would be hosted on the groups site. More on this in the coming months.

So, to wrap up a long comment, I agree with both of you and see both sides, and, agree with both of you. :)

-Melissa

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
Comment by Anna-Maria
MyAvatars 0.2

June 17th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

mal_igned as my old Gran would say there is a time and a place for everything but I do not think that Yahoo profiles is the place for ‘adult’ content.

As for ‘adult’ groups I have no problem with people doing what they want to do but what I do object to is getting an unsolicited invitation to an ‘adult’ group. If I wanted to join such a thing I would go looking for it.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 11:41 am

well, mal_igned,
melissa did say in this blog , i forget the name of the entry, that yahoo groups messages will get added and when that happens, adult yahoo groups messages from users will be available to who they want.
I think yahoo groups will benefit well when they finally add its messages [they only have the photos now] to the updates.

give it time, they are working on yahoo groups integration and improvement.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

MK (and, mal_igned),
Just to manage expectations, I believe that when messages integrates into updates, it will only broadcast content that is NOT behind the adult-wall/set to mature. So, if you’re in an adult group and want to share your updates, I don’t think you’ll be able to (I’ll double check on this though to be sure).

-Melissa

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

awwww but melissa, its funny, I like yahoo groups though i think yahoo groups has had to wait a long time for certain changes or advancements. I realize you guys are working over there too but , in all earnest, i read a report saying that the largest growing segment on facebook is older women. older folks dont mind adult content, most of all if they are warned. And, the proof of that is when you check out german, or iranian profiles [in my opinion, so no one please think i speak for yahoo or any social group]
they tend to have pretty racy stuff for the states, now, I admit, i am not part of any adult group, but, I think that it is sad that you guys will not allow updates from adult groups[or at least that is the gist i gather so far]. You say you are working on something for that, i hope so.
i think once yahoo groups reaches out in profiles, it will be slow to come around but will be a strong part of profiles once it does kick in.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

Confirmed– updates/messages from adult groups will not be shared via your profile.

-Melissa

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by Anna-Maria
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 11:41 am

Hi Melissa,

Another suggestion.

May we please have the ability to share out status message with everyone and not just our connections?

I found this facility a really good way of letting the perverts that hang about the Yahoo games rooms know that I am there to play the game and not to type them through a masturbation fantasy.

We are back to ‘mature content’ again.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 15th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

Status in Messenger or status in profiles? If you’re talking about profiles, it should be visible to everyone, even if you have your profile set to “My Connections” (the only time it wouldn’t is if your profile is set to “Only Me” or “Private”), as this is visible in your contact card. (To see what others see, log out of your profile and go to: http://profiles.yahoo.com/THE-FIRST-PART-OF-YOUR-EMAIL-ADDRESS

This should show you what everyone sees.

As for syncing your profiles status message with your messenger status message, this is something that’s being considered (we’re looking at privacy settings to ensure that people don’t “overshare” on accident as a lot of users don’t immediately associate Messenger with profiles).

-Melissa

Comment by Anna-Maria
MyAvatars 0.2

June 17th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

My profile status is only visible to connections.

All my settings are for ‘anyone’ but my status message is only visible to my connections.

 
Comment by Elizabeth
MyAvatars 0.2

June 17th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

I have also lost the ability to share my status message on my profile with anyone. It now tells me it it visible only to connections and as I don’t have or want connections this seems to me to be a useless facility.
I don’t use YIM on this ID so I see no connection to my status there and nor do I think there should be.
I have contacted Customer Care but I might as well talk to a brick wall for all they are worth.

Help please Melissa.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 20th, 2009 at 9:47 am

Anna-Maria and Elizabeth,
I’ll follow up via email as we need a little more information (and would like permission to access your profile to reproduce the issue).

-Melissa

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by Lori
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 12:34 am

Wow…..tried to compose a blog entry just to at least see how this thing worked….and got a lot of these: �. And when I went to edit the entry, it disappeared. I mean, come on.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 12:44 am

Hi Lori,
I know– the good news is, we’ve figured out the problem and are in the process of testing/releasing the fix. The bad news is that the fix/release won’t come out until July 8th.

In the meantime, try composing your entries in notepad or right in the blog editor as you’re likely seeing these shapes as a result of composing your entry in Word.

-Melissa

Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 17th, 2009 at 10:42 am

I have just composed a blog entry in the blog editor. It now contains these weird symbols, and if I try to edit the blog, then the entire content disappears! It’s disappointing that the ‘new’ editor is flakier than even the 360 one which wasn’t the best.

Didn’t go near Word. No cutting and pasting. Just typing.

 
 
 
Comment by Abbey
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 3:19 am

Melissa, are you going to do something about ‘ghosts’ in Connections?

I have some I want to get rid of and they didn’t go when I deleted them from the contacts list.

Thanks,

Abbey.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am

Unfortunately these aren’t actually ghosts, they’re users in a limbo state as their profile is currently being investigated. We are, however, working on a way to let you delete these friends in limbo.

-Melissa

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

please make that an announcement, a big one. I have some of those

 
 
 
Comment by Summa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 5:20 am

Hello Melissa…I set up the transfer of my blogs to the new profile and only 1 of my 2009 blogs made it through (huh? kindly advise))…tried transfering to another site (said can’t do at this time, huh?) I compose using notepad, word and directly on the blog itself and no matter which I use I still get all those diamond shapes etc. (huh?) As stated on many comments: editing wipes out the whole blog, there is no ability to preview blog other than fiddling with the HTML over and over (huh?) I sure miss 360, indeed I do. I always felt that Yahoo Profiles, as far as chat, should be short and sweet…and that Yahoo 360 was the premiere blogging and socializing set-up with indepth perceptions of said bloggers. The ability to set one’s blog to mature and accept or not that content via “settings” was, LOL, well, um…mature. p,s, Melissa…any ideas of how to retrieve all my 2009 blogs? Thanks, Summa .

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 9:55 am

If your blogs didn’t transfer its likely that the reason is because they were marked as mature. Profiles doesn’t allow mature content which is why they won’t transfer over. As for download issues, please let me know if you’re seeing an error message and provide additional details by emailing me directly at: yahooprofiles [at] yahoo-inc [dot] com

When emailing please let me know which browser and operating system you’re using as well.

As for the diamond shapes this will be fixed in the July 8th release.

-Melissa

 
 
Comment by Eita
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 11:29 am

Hi Melissa,

Does this mean that on July 8th, Yahoo Profiles will be updated and more functions will be added? Can’t wait to see it.

Thanks,

Eita

Comment by MK
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

I hope some key changes or advancements will be added as well, but Eita, it is probably best to focus on what she said which was that that bug would be fixed.
yahoo has a lot of services and probably all have some sort of bug.

 
 
Comment by House MD
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

Melissa,

why wont the system let us unmark those blogs marked as “mature content”?
I took the liberty of marking everything that way because in the rare chance I do post something “adult” it wouldent be an issue if I dident remember to mark it. Now im screwed!!! ill have to repost everything and lose all my comments. Thats not hardly fair at all. The system should give us the oppertunity to unmark those blogs that are not ‘mature content” so we can transfer them.

 
Comment by catdad- richard
MyAvatars 0.2

June 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

i ll like to see is theam how to dir the profile and put pic on the profile
would you

 
Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 17th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

Hi Melissa … if you recall I have been unable to receive *any* private messages via Yahoo Profiles. I raised this with customer care. As I am in the UK and use BT Broadband (British Telecomm) I am actually part of the BT Yahoo! partnership, which, generally (as we pay for it!) gives us branded services and richer content access. Customer Care suggested I raise my problem with BT.

BT say that the BT Yahoo profile is incompatible with Yahoo profiles, and so private messaging will not work, and never will. They say they block the sending mail address in their mail servers.

This is hard to swallow. If this is true, then as a (paying) Yahoo customer, I get a poorer service than non-paying customers. They advisde me to set up a generic ‘yahoo.com’ email and then it would all work. Of course, this would mean logging on to 2 accounts all the time – and all of my main content is linked to my ‘real’ account.

Surely there is some mistake here? I thought, and it seems to be the case, that all of my content is delivered by Yahoo, just with some corporate branding added. That seems to be how the pages work. I guess Yahoo has many corporate deals globally, and this is just one of many.

BT is the largest supplier of broadband in the UK. It has 4.5m customers. Have these 4.5m customers just lost private messaging? Is the only way to overcome this to publish email addresses in the public domain? This cannot be right.

If there is no way around this, can’t the branded Profiles page suppress the option to ’send message’ as it will never work(!)

Is this (yet another) ‘feature’ of the new system.

The only reason I’m sticking with my current ISP is the email address I get. If this is now no longer useful to me, then I might as well jump ship and use ‘free’ Yahoo … it seems to be a better deal :-(

I’m guessing that most of those 4.5m users will be having the same issue…

Comment by Bruiser
MyAvatars 0.2

June 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

I stopped paying them money. As far as I’m concerned, they don’t deserve to get any of my money with such a substandard product in all phases; mail, chat, blogging, social features. Everyone else who specializes in one or the other produces a better product.

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 20th, 2009 at 9:44 am

Mike,
I do remember now– I’m having the BT team look into this– this definitley shouldn’t be the case.

-Melissa

Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 22nd, 2009 at 1:17 pm

Thanks Melissa.

This appears to be working now (from my 1 test!). I’m guessing someone just updated the filters to permit mail from profiles@yahoo-inc.com to be allowed through. Another disappointment really though … quite apart from the restricted nature of private messaging, to not have this sorted at launch shows your commitment to quality more than your words.

 
 
 
Comment by Just wondering
MyAvatars 0.2

June 18th, 2009 at 5:40 am

Question 1.

I remember when 360 switched from photo album to flickers (which I thought was a bad move) flickers only let you uploaded a certain amount of photos otherwise you had to upgrade and pay an additional fee. Has this changed with flickers?

Just wondering because if we use it to blog photos and keep blogging we would have to delete photos in flickers which will delete photos from blogs to add photos to new blogs unless we upgrade.

Question 2.

Are we able to use graphic comments in guess book?

Question 3.

Can we embed music players and videos into blogs?

Question 4. Are we going to get a calendar, photo album, music area, tag cloud, blog roll, our own creative backgrounds for our profiles?

Question 5.

In the future are they headed toward using applications to get what we want on our profiles like facebook?

Just wondering if we are headed in a direction where we are rebuilding similarities to 360 and much more.

Comment by Bruiser
MyAvatars 0.2

June 18th, 2009 at 7:29 am

Profiles will never get that far. Yahoo will redirect it’s energies elsewhere first, after they’ve realized that, through their poor planning, they chased off most of their users who would have used this service.

 
 
Comment by Donna
MyAvatars 0.2

June 18th, 2009 at 8:10 am

I’ve tried the new blog. But when I go to “edit” my blog…. a blank blog window opens rather than the existing blog wording. What is Yahoo wanting me to start over just to edit an existing blog?

donna

Comment by Howie
MyAvatars 0.2

June 18th, 2009 at 9:55 am

I have the same problem. What you can do while waiting to hear from Melissa is to save your entry before editing it :)

 
 
Comment by kath21
MyAvatars 0.2

June 18th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

Ill just wait to get on here when every thing is fixed.

Comment by Mike
MyAvatars 0.2

June 19th, 2009 at 1:43 am

…whoa … make sure you aren’t holding your breath ;-)

 
 
Comment by Terra
MyAvatars 0.2

June 18th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

I know this might not be related Melissa, but people are now seemingly unable to use the http://p1.pf.re4.yahoo.com/(your to look at peoples REAL profiles rather than the new system that none of us like. Was this planned along with the destruction of 360 and simply not announced, or was it just a happy gap in the Yahoo system that the team spotted and crushed because it didn’t match up with the overall direction Yahoo was going?

At least before we had the ability to look at the profiles of people who HAD profiles. Now we don’t even have that. What are we supposed to do now?

Comment by Sean
MyAvatars 0.2

June 19th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

Terra, I agree.

It’s disgusting that Yahoo! keep closing these work arounds, the least they could do if it’s going to take over half a year to integrate the correct data in games and chat etc. is to leave a way open to modify the old profile data. It should even be an official, approved work around, not one that has to be passed around like a back door.

Anyway, try p2 instead of p1, it works, but who knows, now I announce it, it’s due to stop soon!

Comment by mal_igned
MyAvatars 0.2

June 19th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

I remember seeing it mentioned (as opposed to “announced,”) buried somewhere in a past post that the workaround would be disabled at some indefinite time. I shrugged it off as just one more thing to be p-o’ed about.

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 20th, 2009 at 9:39 am

Yes– these work arounds were disabled (as promised) in April (for the manage.members.yahoo.com work around) and others are being shut down regularly.

This was all discussed/mentioned in previous posts (that these work-arounds would not be open forever).

-Melissa

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Sean
MyAvatars 0.2

June 20th, 2009 at 10:33 am

But why?

Users must have a right to keep their own data up to date, when that date is still being used in certain areas?

I wonder if there is any implication of Yahoo!’s US-EU Safe Harbour framework compliance, considering many profile users (like myself) will be Europeans who signed up through the UK website? Part of the EU data protection laws are a right for data to be kept up to date, and Data Integrity is also one of the seven princples of the framework. If there is no official method of maintaining this non-anonymous data, are you therefore not compliant?

 
Comment by Terra
MyAvatars 0.2

June 20th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

Melissa we do not like the new product, we do not want to use the new product, and taking away the old product so that we cannot use it either will not make us use the new one, it will simply make people leave. I am not trying to be offensive or standoffish about things, but its simply not helping Yahoo keep people around. If the new profile system had alias profiles that did not have to be ‘linked’ to the ‘main’ profile and sufficient space to type things out, if it had the flexibility of the old profile system, then nobody would mind.

This is the key problem we have is that this system does not seem to keep any of the old users in mind. Questions have been asked but i will tell you now the general sense in the community is that while asked, the decisions were made already.

Melissa the nay-sayers here are not against Yahoo, we are the ones who stuck around when everyone else left because they did not like the changes. We are simply trying to explain that this new system does not meet the needs of your customers. They feel violated, they feel exposed and they feel uncomfortable using your product. The users want anonymity, they want control of who can see what they are doing and how and why. They don’t want to feel like they are part of a giant focus group that any shmo off of the street can come in and look at. I know that the management at Yahoo wants this too, they want happy customers, but the path that is being taken is not the way to reach that goal. If you kept the basic framework that Yahoo had before, and then add secondary functions that users could choose to exploit or not as they wish.

I know Yahoo wants to make a competative product, and I know you guys have a strategy, and it probably looks very good on paper. But whatever the strategy is, it is not working. The things that made yahoo preferable to the other sites and services have all been taken away, and what is left is simply the same offering that every social networking site has.

Melissa your customers need their Yahoo back, or they need clearly defined outlines for what Yahoo plans to offer as incentive to stay. you are putting out things as they become issues but people keep losing faith and feeling dissatisfied with the end product. If Yahoo has a clearly defined path to make us happy with it again then we need to see it, and if it is still in the planning stages you may want to consider these heavily voiced concerns over privacy and accessibility.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Zesmencon
MyAvatars 0.2

June 18th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

I did transfered all my blogs from Y360 to profiles. However, there is strikethrough on title of my blogs showed on frontpage. How to solve?

Do you have photostream on frontpage?

 
Comment by Anna
MyAvatars 0.2

June 19th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

Hi Melissa,

I am just wondering why updates does not tell us when a contact has posted a blog on profiles.

The status message on my profile is only visible to connections even though all my settings are open to anyone.

I have just transferred my blogs from Y360 to profiles only to have the blogs I had posted on profiles disappear. Can I have them and the comments my connections made on them back please? I have contacted Customer care on this one but they are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Has Customer Care actually been briefed on these changes?
Also the comments on the blogs I have transferred fro Y360 do not show who made them.

This is a total shambles.
Would it not have been a better idea to iron out all these problems before you closed down Y360 and opened profies to blogging?

Comment by Anna
MyAvatars 0.2

June 19th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

Not wishing to seem like a moaner or anything like that but……

When I try to edit a blog posted on profiles I am faced with a blank page.

I cannot change the size or the colour of the text on my blogs it only alters the first line.

If the company I help run offered a service like this we would be out of business in months………………….Get you act together Yahoo

 
 
Comment by Heir To A Dying Day
MyAvatars 0.2

June 19th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

Melissa, I am still unable to access my own profile which is happily broadcasting updates about everything I do on Yahoo to anyone and everyone who wants to look, without my control or permission. This has been going on for at least a month, my only solution to date has been to stop using all things Yahoo! since that’s the only way I can stop the invasion of my privacy. When will access to my profile be restored?

Comment by Heir To A Dying Day
MyAvatars 0.2

June 29th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

Hellooo-oooooo…. I answered your e-mail 4 days ago, just 2 hours after you sent it. Any progress yet? Any idea when some will be made?

Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

June 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

Hey,
It was escalated up through the product team but I haven’t heard back– I just followed up and will see if I get any more info.

-Melissa

Comment by Heir To A Dying Day
MyAvatars 0.2

July 7th, 2009 at 8:13 am

Another full week here and gone, still no profile access. This is sure getting old.
I’m not overly appreciative of the fact that it’s been going on for months during which I have had no control of what is being broadcast about my activities and who can see those updates.

Also, I had requested some information when I responded to your e-mail 12 days ago. Could you please forward that information to me if it’s within your authority to do? Thanks.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

July 8th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

Heir,
Your profile is not visible to others while it is not accessible, so you don’t have to worry about this problem.

I’ve followed up with you via email, so let me know if you still have questions.

-Melissa

 
Comment by Heir To A Dying Day
MyAvatars 0.2

July 8th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

“Your profile is not visible to others while it is not accessible”

No, but the updates are clearly visible to anyone and everyone who may have added me to their Y! Messenger over the past 6 and a half years. Updates I can’t control, modify or stop. I can’t change which updates are added, and I can’t change who has access to them. If I wanted every contact I have (plus a bunch I no longer have but may still have me on THEIR list) to know my every move across all of Yahoo! I’d post it on my status message on Messenger. This doesn’t seem to comply with the claims made in Yahoo!s privacy policy because personal information is being shared with other people WITHOUT my permission for reasons NOT supplied in that policy. Not only that but I myself have no idea what information is being shared and who’s seeing it.

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

July 8th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

This is a setting configurable in Messenger– here’s a step by step on how to disable/configure these preferences: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/messenger/messenger9/updates/ms9tamngupdates.html

-Melissa

 
Comment by Heir To A Dying Day
MyAvatars 0.2

July 10th, 2009 at 10:16 am

Thanks Melissa, that got me in. Any idea when the issue will be fixed or am stuck with no profile forever?

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

July 11th, 2009 at 9:22 am

Heir,
I’m working on getting your profile reactivated… unfortunately, I can’t go into details, but I’m hoping to have it back up soon.

-Melissa

 
Comment by Heir To A Dying Day
MyAvatars 0.2

July 18th, 2009 at 11:26 am

Finally!! I once again have access to my profile, just wanted to let you know.

Thanks!

 
Comment by Melissa
MyAvatars 0.2

July 20th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

:) I’m glad it worked. Thanks for your patience!

-Melissa

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by shoaib khan
MyAvatars 0.2

June 20th, 2009 at 6:27 am

Dear Melissa,

I got a problem. I had some entries using Y!P blogging tool before I moved my entries from 360 to Profile. It was completed but I couldn’t see entries in my Profile. Pls kindly help!!!

Thank you.
Giao Hoang

 
Comment by Anne
MyAvatars 0.2

June 20th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

Why do you state that you will move all my blogs from 360 to my profile when you don’t? I also don’t see where the option to move them to another blog (Blogger) is at? When I try to do either all I get is: Sorry, Forbidden.
You don’t have permission to access this URL on this server.

Please check the URL for proper spelling and capitalization. If you’re having trouble locating a destination on Yahoo!, try visiting the Yahoo! home page or look through a list of Yahoo!’s online services. Also, you may find what you’re looking for if you try searching below.

WTF??? This is LOUSY ’service’ – it’s a JOKE! Do something about this please!

 
Comment by Steve
MyAvatars 0.2

June 21st, 2009 at 10:57 am

Melissa,

Any plans to add a Pingbox module to profiles? I’m surprised it isn’t in there already, being a Yahoo service?

 
Comment by Vy
MyAvatars 0.2

June 22nd, 2009 at 6:19 am

I already add an email address to my Yahoo! 360 Settings but when I visited the site http://download.360.yahoo.com/ I received this message “You do not have a verified email address with Yahoo!. To add an email address, please visit your Yahoo! 360° Settings and add an email address. ” Therefore, I cannot import my 360 blog :(
Please help, thanks a lot !

 
Comment by SM
MyAvatars 0.2

June 22nd, 2009 at 9:29 am

Hi,
I want to ask which font is used as default at profile page. It does not support unicode well, my friends’ comments aren’t showed correctly. Why not arial or tahoma?

 
Comment by Miss Kitty
MyAvatars 0.2

June 24th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

I miss all the features of 360. :o (

 
Comment by Giao Hoang
MyAvatars 0.2

June 25th, 2009 at 1:18 am

Hi

Comments imported from 360 don’t display properly in Unicode format. Pls kindly fix that.

Thank you.

 
Comment by Mr Bitout
MyAvatars 0.2

June 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am

May I suggest you move the Blog facility to MyBlogLog, or alternatively move the MyBlogLog Pictures facility to the Profile. The Blog and Pictures Facility are equally matched for both usefuleness and sophistication.

 
Comment by Marie
MyAvatars 0.2

June 25th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

I’m disappointed and finding profile boring. Would be great if you could personalize the page with images or themes. Everyone’s page looks the same. I was happy with 360%. I don’t think I will continue blogging here but will hang on to see if it becomes more interesting.

Comment by Siobhan
MyAvatars 0.2

June 29th, 2009 at 4:10 am

Like alot of comments from users. I find it difficult to get used to this site. 360*was much better. One contact say they can not see my profile, even though it is visible from my side.

 
 
Comment by Khoangtroi
MyAvatars 0.2

June 30th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

Hi, How can I make my profile look more beautifull, not simple as now?

 
Comment by Lourdes
MyAvatars 0.2

July 2nd, 2009 at 2:04 pm

Feliz Cumple Maca y Maca vos me pone:webmessenger.yahoo.com/

 
Comment by Pedram
MyAvatars 0.2

July 3rd, 2009 at 3:13 am

Hi
You suggested wordpress.com for blogging. but in “share more” tab, there is no option for using wordpress.com blog feed in my profile. Don’t you want to provide that?!
What about a free RSS feed like it was in 360?
It’s NECESSARY, guys!

 
Comment by SMØWID
MyAvatars 0.2

July 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 am

360° I´ll miss You and the “New Profile Blog” shame on the “Pro´s” a lot of problems and I´m not gonna use it, to much trouble at this time. Let´s see how long time it will take to implement “all that is missing and so on” and maybe I´ll come back. Bye Bye …… to Yahoo tallyhoo…

 
Comment by gabi
MyAvatars 0.2

July 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm

i rly dont get the blog,ive tried 2 up load a viedo like 5 times but it dosent work i dont know wat 2 do so if sum1 cud just plzzzzz hepl me out th@ wud b gr8.
(i no i spelled stuff rong th@s just an easier way of typing)

 
Comment by Tina D
MyAvatars 0.2

July 3rd, 2009 at 5:19 pm

I loved yahoo 360. Pictures, comments, connections. Everything was right there. The new profiles and so-called blogs are a joke.
But, typical yahoo. They’re always lowering their standards.
I’d like to know what was wrong with the Y360.

 
Comment by zn
MyAvatars 0.2

July 11th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

Hi melissa,

don’t you think the profile’s appearance is too disappointing?
couldn’t we change it as we want?
I really can’t tolerate this simple mood, come on! we need a more joyfull place to blog!

 
Comment by Mike Green
MyAvatars 0.2

July 12th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

Did you know you can import your Y360 blog over to Multiply for free:
http://multiply.com/y360-splash?utm_source=y360&utm_medium=Y360_Group&utm_campaign=ImportY360

 
Comment by Emi
MyAvatars 0.2

July 12th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

Hi.. i tried to send my 360 Blog to new profile of me on Yahoo! i send it more time,and an email came me that it sent,now u just head it,!! i cant see my blogs on new profile,,they did`nt send !! what can i do…?????

 
Comment by TJ
MyAvatars 0.2

July 14th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

I keep getting an error when logging into my new profile. Sorry, you do not have access to this.

I have sent numerous emails to yahoo support, they acknowledge my request but it never gets fixed. Please help me!!

 
Comment by Vahid Amir
MyAvatars 0.2

July 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

Hi,
I am one your users who writes in right-to-left direction and I wonder why you don’t support right-to-left direction in weblog and comments (at least in weblg as 360).
There are many languages in the world which use right-to-left direction as Arabic, Farsi(Persian), Hebrew, Pashto, Urdu and many others.

I wonder why you are downgrading weblog and comment editor! Because for example the weblog editor was supporting right-to-left until few weeks ago.

Thank you for attention and cooperation.

 
Comment by Charlotte
MyAvatars 0.2

July 15th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

May I ask that why couldn’t I update my new entry in the updates column ? It means that entry didn’t appear in the updates column like status, profile photos,etc.
And I have some ideas about categories of friends so we can decide which type of friends can view our blog .. should it ?